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Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by kstrauser » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 8:39 PM UTC

ammon wrote: post #2

Another interesting angle on this is that VS Code is free (and open source), while Sublime is proprietary and (nominally) costs $80. I wonder how many people don't use Sublime because of the price? Atom is free too and never surpassed Sublime.

I've paid for Sublime, but I abandoned it for VS Code. For instance, the default Python setup - in particular its handling of virtualenvs, linters, and formatters - works pretty much out of the box. I was constantly fighting against the Sublime plugins to make them work halfway reasonably. Sublime is faster, but the lower mental overheard required to make VS Code work properly makes a much bigger difference to me than the price does.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by brink » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 8:50 PM UTC

hartator wrote: post #110

brink wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't, and it's better because of that. All "advanced" features should be a plugin so you can pick your favorites. This way, if someone comes up with a better multi-cursor system, there's no politics involved about which multi-cursor system to come to a global consensus on. Just switch your personal config over to the new plugin and get on with your life.

Hum. The things is it's probably breaking other features and other plugins then. Try Sublime one once. It's like night and day. Everything works as if you were in single cursor mode.

I used sublime for about a month and couldn't get used to it. Maybe I'm just too indoctrinated into Emacs. :)

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by shmulkey18 » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 8:50 PM UTC

Newspaper headline: "Emacs text editor makes people smarter."

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by misnome » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 8:57 PM UTC

atombender wrote: post #114

VSCode is fast and it's certainly the best editor/IDE I've used since back when I was a Java dev using Eclipse back in 2006 or so. But I recently opened up Sublime Text to compare some editor behaviour, and the difference in UI performance is astounding . It's possible that VSCode has regressed a bit the last couple of years. It was always faster than Atom. But comparing it to Sublime shows that there are clear advan…

I love VSCode and have moved to it from Sublime; mostly same shortcuts by default, inline debugging, extension ecosystem and blistering pace of development.

It's fast enough but Sublime blows it out of the water - especially for things to "Go To Symbol" where it works almost instantly whereas I'm constantly waiting for VSCode to stop spinning and give up and cmd-f search instead.

Also, I have to work with a lot of network-user-login RHEL6 boxes, and VSCode doesn't work on desktops that old.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by sinuhe69 » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 9:00 PM UTC

Funny how people analyse data and draw conclusions without applying any statistical method. Yeah, maybe more people use VS Code, but I don't think it has anything to do with people's failure or success.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by craigsmansion » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 9:05 PM UTC

> The first thing that jumps out from this graph is the prominence of Visual Studio Code.

Maybe to some. 10.2% percent for vim!

For some reason that makes me really happy even though I use emacs. I guess the (d)evil you know...

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by 33degrees » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 9:05 PM UTC

davidwparker wrote: post #87

33degrees wrote: post #8

One of my favorite things about VS Code is how usable it is with its default configuration, and how easy it is to customize to my liking. I found Atom and Sublime Text very frustrating in that regard.

Interestingly, I found Atom to be much easier to customize. There are still things in VS Code I can't customize that I used to have in Atom. That said, I've been on VS Code for a little more than a year now and it's grown on me.

To be clear, I meant easy in terms of how little I have to do the get it working to my liking. Atom might be easier to customize in general, but it requires more effort overall.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by 33degrees » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 9:06 PM UTC

brokenwren wrote: post #4

VS Code solves different problems then IntelliJ, PyCharm and Atom. I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. For example, I wouldn't ever code a full Java stack in VS Code. I'd go straight to IntelliJ.

I agree with the first two, but does VS Code really solve different problems than Atom?

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by hahamrfunnyguy » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 9:08 PM UTC

munchbunny wrote: post #48

brokenwren wrote: post #4

VS Code solves different problems then IntelliJ, PyCharm and Atom. I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. For example, I wouldn't ever code a full Java stack in VS Code. I'd go straight to IntelliJ.

Separately from being my JS IDE of choice, VS Code has for the most part replaced Notepad++. It's quite good at being a general purpose "heavyweight" text editor.

That's exactly what it's intended for, in my view. I still use Notepad++ for quick edits though, mostly because I am so used to it.

Re: The Rise of Microsoft Visual Studio Code

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Post by johngalt » Thu, Dec 06, 2018, 9:13 PM UTC

> Engineers who use Go are also especially strong. If you know why, please let me know.

Because there is almost no reason to learn Go. Most shops want JS/Java/Python/C# etc... The primary reason to learn a language like Go is because you want to for it's own sake.

It's not that you must learn Go in order to be good, or that knowing Go makes you better. Rather it's difficult to be bad and still have the desire/interest to spend time learning something unnecessary.