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The Dangerous Fetishization of ‘Hustle Porn’

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Post by roel_v »

fierro wrote: post #69
honkycat wrote: post #27

Agree with this 100%. Hustle porn is toxic and and the ethos needs to be avoided. It is clear why people latch onto the narrative. Working insane hours is a way to conceal incompetence. When your boss or employees come knocking and sees the complete waste you have made of your task, you can point at your complete lack of social life and how much you have martyred yourself for your company as proof of your competence.…

You a great person! Tell us more

This. Also, please start a blog, a podcast and a youtube channel, so that I can be inspired by your anti-hustling lifestyle every day.

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Post by logicchains »

exogeny wrote: post #10

There's nothing wrong with hard work. But there is a lot wrong with the idea that you need to work until your health is impacted to succeed; if you need to work that hard, something else is off - the idea isn't good enough, you're attacking it in the wrong way, whatever. To me this ties into the gross, pervasive trend of wantrepreneurism. Shark Tank, Zuck, Elon Musk - being a founder has never been sexier, never been…

People who think hustling is about working hard have a very different interpretation of the word than I'm used to. A hustler is supposed to be a cunning character who uses their guile and persistence to get ahead, taking advantage of the system. Someone who just works really hard at the expense of their health sounds more like what I'd expect to see characterised as a schmuck than a hustler.

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Post by spicyusername »

userbinator wrote: post #29
exogeny wrote: post #10

There's nothing wrong with hard work. But there is a lot wrong with the idea that you need to work until your health is impacted to succeed; if you need to work that hard, something else is off - the idea isn't good enough, you're attacking it in the wrong way, whatever. To me this ties into the gross, pervasive trend of wantrepreneurism. Shark Tank, Zuck, Elon Musk - being a founder has never been sexier, never been…

something else is off - the idea isn't good enough, you're attacking it in the wrong way, whatever. ...and don't forget the fact that seems almost taboo to say these days: you just don't have the ability.

Not saying this isn't true sometimes, but I think it's far more rare that the reason someone isn't succeeding is their ability, but rather their circumstances.

But either way it doesn't change the fact that it is one's personal responsibility to chart a course through those circumstances.

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Post by joppy »

robbywashere_ wrote: post #119

This is all fine and dandy but let’s be real. How many of you can solve: Given n non-negative integers representing an elevation map where the width of each bar is 1, compute how much water it is able to trap after raining. In N(1) space and N time

None, because a two-dimensional bar graph can’t trap any water?

This is completely irrelevant to the article being discussed.

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Post by throwaway844634 »

nimonian wrote: post #88
fwip wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know that they intentionally put through and hyped up the worst singers, right? Like some kid who showed up for the first round on a lark was told "congrats you're great!! You're coming back for the next round when the judges are here," did the whole profiling/backstory thing like they'd do if you were a good singer, and intentionally set you up to fail in the worst way. Just so Simon can make a joke at your expe…

Tail dog wagging. They prominently feature terrible singers because Simon is brutally honest, not the other way around.

No, as GP said it's for entertainment. If SC were so honest I doubt he would have gotten his friend's wife pregnant.

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Post by joppy »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #67

The discussion around the content of the article here is interesting, but the thing that stuck out to me the most was this quote: “No amount of grifting or endless working” will help alleviate the gender pay gap, which, according to the World Economic Forum, won’t close for another 200 years I read on here all the time that the “gender pay gap” doesn’t exist. So which one is it?

The “gender pay gap” absolutely does exist, look up any results from any census ever. Even the myriad ways of “explaining it away” which you can find on the Wikipedia page [1] cannot fully account for the gap (regardless of whether these explanations are valid/fair/equitable or not). Where exactly are you reading that the gender pay gap does not exist?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap_in_the_United_S...

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Post by whack »

exogeny wrote: post #10

There's nothing wrong with hard work. But there is a lot wrong with the idea that you need to work until your health is impacted to succeed; if you need to work that hard, something else is off - the idea isn't good enough, you're attacking it in the wrong way, whatever. To me this ties into the gross, pervasive trend of wantrepreneurism. Shark Tank, Zuck, Elon Musk - being a founder has never been sexier, never been…

Is anyone actually advocating for working until your health is impacted? The article mentioned working weekends and waking up before dawn - neither of which is particularly toxic to your body.

If other people want the hard-working founder lifestyle, and if they find these videos motivating and useful, I don't see why we should try to tear them down. People don't need to be criticized or psycho-analyzed just because they have different life goals and dreams.

Edison famously said that genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. Was he fetishizing Hustle Porn as well?

edit: Thanks for the name fix

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Post by uh_what »

autokad wrote: post #53

I disagree with the article. I got nowhere fast in life by just sitting around waiting for things to happen. I had all sorts of excuses on why I wasn't succeeding, the article likes to supply plenty, and they are just poisonous thoughts. then i lit a fire under my butt. I wanted to be a principle engineer, so I did research by looking at profiles on linkedin and found a masters at a great school would make that path…

If you were really hustling, it shouldn't have taken years. A hustler like myself could have done it in months.

/s

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Post by elcinr »

Novashi wrote: post #118
honkycat wrote: post #27

Agree with this 100%. Hustle porn is toxic and and the ethos needs to be avoided. It is clear why people latch onto the narrative. Working insane hours is a way to conceal incompetence. When your boss or employees come knocking and sees the complete waste you have made of your task, you can point at your complete lack of social life and how much you have martyred yourself for your company as proof of your competence.…

>I do weight training after work every day. Dunno about that; you're supposed to have breaks so the muscle has time to repair itself unless you're just not pushing.

The muscle has 23 hours to repair itself. Post body
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