That's great, but we should find a different name for "photos" that change image information in the process.
Night Sight for Pixel phones
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Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are no cameras or software out there that produce results like this. Period. The Huawei P20 has a night mode that in many cases is superior. So much for the "period". Further it's gimmicky and has downsides that make it pertinent for a tiny percentage of pictures. Which is why it's hidden behind a "more" option. Apple doesn't have it because Apple is about making everything easy for the 99%. Image stacking is n…
See my other comment in this thread. The Huawei does not have anything close. Look at the dxomark review. The Huawei is comparable to both the pixel 2 and iPhone in the dark shots, and may be better or worse depending on the photo. Now look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9qzyry/pixel_2... I know this is true because I've tried it. I have the camera loaded on a pixel 2, and the iPhone is pitch…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw
"The Huawei does not have anything close"
The P20 Pro's night mode is arguably better than the Pixels. It is sharper, works in worse light, and has more natural colours. You also seem to be confused into thinking that DXOMark enables every special mode. They don't. The reviews are overwhelmingly simply the auto settings.
The argument I'm seeing in favor of the Pixel generally is "waves hand {magic AI!}". Sorry, I don't care how much HN is infected by Googlers and Pixel fanboys, there is zero evidence of any magical AI in the Pixel results, and they look absolutely bog standard.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#123The Huawei P20 shipped out in April with this feature -- I look forward to dxomark's analysis of the Pixel 3 phone compared to the P20, which currently remains on top: https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/ Upgrading from a 3-year old Samsung S6, where I could almost see the battery percentages drop off percent by percent, the P20 Pro's 4000 mAh battery has been great (too bad the wireless charging didn't a…
The Huawei does not have this feature. Look at the review in your own link and you will see that the images for low light are comparable to the pixel or iPhone. If you compare night sight to those, it's completely different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw
Except the Huawei does and in actual same-setting situations the results are better than the Pixel.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
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I'm sadly unable to find the original study where I found this. If memory serves me it was from around 2003. Not sure how it would increase bacteria, as bacteria don't photosynthesis light, unless the lights gave off sufficient heat to increase their activity. If anything I would think the light might inhibit bacterial growth.
This is really interesting. I'm tempted to attach red LEDs to a battery and put it in the fridge. But it would be quite tricky to measure whether it works. (Almost impossible to do accurately, without different fridges.)
Put two cardboard boxes in a fridge. Put a leaf of lettuce in each, and a red LED in the top of each box.
Turn one LED on, while the other stays off.
Observe the leaves of lettuce after a week.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
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from what I can tell, Marc Levoy is the main reason why the Pixel has all these abilities.
Let's give credit to the entire engineering team.
Indeed let's do that. At our weekly meeting yesterday, there were 18 engineers in the room. Every one of them is working hard to make this feature happen. My role at this point is mostly to kibitz, and help with the field testing.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's give credit to the entire engineering team.
Indeed let's do that. At our weekly meeting yesterday, there were 18 engineers in the room. Every one of them is working hard to make this feature happen. My role at this point is mostly to kibitz, and help with the field testing.
What a fantastic reply. Much love, Marc.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Huawei does not have this feature. Look at the review in your own link and you will see that the images for low light are comparable to the pixel or iPhone. If you compare night sight to those, it's completely different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw Except the Huawei does and in actual same-setting situations the results are better than the Pixel.
You're confusing sensor size for the algorithm again. The Huawei sensor is twice as large as the pixel 2, which is why both cameras without night mode on has a vast improvement in the p20. It's also why the improvement by turning night mode on in the p20 is not as great of a leap as on the pixel.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKHnKkNSyw Except the Huawei does and in actual same-setting situations the results are better than the Pixel.
You're confusing sensor size for the algorithm again. The Huawei sensor is twice as large as the pixel 2, which is why both cameras without night mode on has a vast improvement in the p20. It's also why the improvement by turning night mode on in the p20 is not as great of a leap as on the pixel.
Incredible.
Did you actually watch the video?
The P20 Pro does exactly what this new night mode does, albeit did it months ago. It does image stacking (which is not a new approach). In direct comparison testing -- in that video -- it yields better results.
This whole discussion has just been an bizarre.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're confusing sensor size for the algorithm again. The Huawei sensor is twice as large as the pixel 2, which is why both cameras without night mode on has a vast improvement in the p20. It's also why the improvement by turning night mode on in the p20 is not as great of a leap as on the pixel.
Incredible. Did you actually watch the video? The P20 Pro does exactly what this new night mode does, albeit did it months ago. It does image stacking (which is not a new approach). In direct comparison testing -- in that video -- it yields better results. This whole discussion has just been an bizarre.
There's really no point in continuing this since I don't think you understand what the size of the camera sensor does in low light. I was simply pointing out, over and over, that it is not the same feature Huawei had. Just like you can't take a $50 point and shoot with extremely complex software that took the same image quality as a $5000 Nikon, and say that "this technology exists". Huawei has better camera hardware in almost every dimension you can imagine, and more than half the pictures in the video you sent are worse on the Huawei, despite those advantages. I did not say that Huawei can't take any pictures that are better than the Pixel. I said it's not the same technology, and dismissing this as "it's already been done" is ludicrous. If the Pixel 2 had the same hardware as the P20 the results would be even more impressive.
Re: Night Sight for Pixel phones
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incredible. Did you actually watch the video? The P20 Pro does exactly what this new night mode does, albeit did it months ago. It does image stacking (which is not a new approach). In direct comparison testing -- in that video -- it yields better results. This whole discussion has just been an bizarre.
There's really no point in continuing this since I don't think you understand what the size of the camera sensor does in low light. I was simply pointing out, over and over, that it is not the same feature Huawei had. Just like you can't take a $50 point and shoot with extremely complex software that took the same image quality as a $5000 Nikon, and say that "this technology exists". Huawei has better camera hardware…
Dear god. Incredible.
You are completely and utterly wrong. Yet you continue. Amazing.
And you're not the first to distract with claims that it is someone else's ignorance.
The P20 Pro does image stacking. Period. That is exactly what this new Pixel mode does. In actual results the P20 Pro is better.