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Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by Freak_NL »

michaelmrose wrote: post #119
Freak_NL wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly, neither do the complaints about the new UI voiced here.

You don't think anyone uses browsers other than Chrome or wants to access mail faster than 7 seconds to load contents?

I think these people exist, and that their complaints are valid. I also think that the percentage of people who complain about it is not significant enough for Google to perceive this as more than a minor public relations issue.

1‰ of GMail's users complaining effectively means that a lot of people are miffed, but it may well be that this is totally acceptable and expected as far as Google is concerned.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by quickben »

sidcool wrote: post #28
alphakappa wrote: post #11

Everyone hates UI changes. Wait 6 months and it will be the new normal.

I may be over generalizing but this is so true. The same People will yearn for the existing UI when you Google updates it six months down the line.

Considering Gmail takes seconds to load now (250Mbit link, Ryzen 8core, 32 GB RAM), I don't see myself using Gmail if they upgrade in the same fashion in 6 months.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by mehrdadn »

Not sure how many people have noticed, but there are 3 Gmail UIs that I've been seeing in the past few weeks. One is the entirely-new UI, one is the classic UI, and one is a subtly-modified version of the classic UI. It's hard to distinguish between the last two, but one way to tell is if you see "Sent" instead of the usual "Sent Mail". For some reason I seem to be switched back-and-forth between the two occasionally. I'm confused why they even improved that UI though, since it seems they want to shift everyone to the new UI.

And of course I hate the new UI. The information density is low and the graphics are (e.g. the Important and Star markers) visibly blurry under non-96 DPI.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by abainbridge »

Freak_NL wrote: post #104
annadane wrote: post #6

Seen this type of comment thread before countless times on the Google support forum. They'll placate the complainers by saying they're listening to feedback and then only pay heed to the positive comments and not change a thing. De rigeur for businesses. The general type of dishonesty is quite amazing. Yes, people are maybe excessively resistant to change, but when everyone is telling you something sucks, your custom…

The folks at Google aren't idiots. They now that there is a vocal minority of complainers, most of whom will accept the new UI after a week or two. For a customer base the size of GMail, placating every complaint is just not in the interest of their business. That is one of the downsides of dominant marker players. Microsoft had the same leverage with Windows 10 (this round of complaints feels similar, although the f…

Agreed, but what do Google get out of making the new version?

The biggest negative business impact for them is that the new version makes talented developers less likely to want to work there. When Gmail first came out, it was breath of fresh air. It showed how to do email right. I remember wishing that I worked a company that could create such brilliant software.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by atomwaffel »

JamesAdir wrote: post #43

The UI is horrible and it has already been discussed in many places, but to me the slowness is the no.1 problem. I thought it was just a hiccup when they had it on optional mode, but now it's plain slow. I've tried on different connections and different browsers and they all seem to generate the same result. Super slow loading times of the interface and the emails. I still remember when gmail was the fastest kid on t…

If the UI is your only concern, why not try one of the hundreds of native email clients available for whatever operating system you may be running? I haven’t used Google’s web interface in years.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by michaelmrose »

Freak_NL wrote: post #121
michaelmrose wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't think anyone uses browsers other than Chrome or wants to access mail faster than 7 seconds to load contents?

I think these people exist, and that their complaints are valid. I also think that the percentage of people who complain about it is not significant enough for Google to perceive this as more than a minor public relations issue. 1‰ of GMail's users complaining effectively means that a lot of people are miffed, but it may well be that this is totally acceptable and expected as far as Google is concerned.

The majority of average users now access their email via their phones. Desktop access to email should focus on the people that actually use it.

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by darren_ »

taeric wrote: post #21
alphakappa wrote: post #11

Everyone hates UI changes. Wait 6 months and it will be the new normal.

It will be the normal, but this has been a disaster. The fact that I get a loading indicator in an email is ridiculously annoying.

There's been a loading indicator in gmail since at least the first whitespace-y redesign (2011? 2012?)

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by Kovah »

m_mueller wrote: post #108
themodelplumber wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, last week a friend asked me to set him up with an email account through Dreamhost shared hosting. My first reaction was "who does this anymore" but after 10 minutes passed (he already had a website there) I was sending him IMAP server information and thinking, "I have got to move on something like this, I'll bet it's 200% faster than current GMail." It's not going to be a GSuite-level toolset for him, of course,…

Isn’t spam the main problem nowadays? I find a hosted mail unusable without some spamfilter in front that is either costly or comes with your corporate accounts.

I don't think so. I was using a selfhosted email for years and never had any problems with spam. You just need to configure your email services to use some DNS block lists like those: zen.spamhaus.org bl.spamcop.net and so on. Also, setup DMARC and SPF entries for your domain. https://dmarc.org/

Re: Please Google, let us revert to the classic Gmail look

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Post by tehwebguy »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #41
djsumdog wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The layout takes up more of the screen, which I kinda like, but my issue was always how terrible terribly slow it is now. It's so laggy, compared to competitors like Here and OSM. The Fruit co could probably give Google a run if they opened up a web version. Google Maps on Android is almost entirely unusable now. It's so god damn slow on my Sony Z5c running Lineage. The combination of Maps and Google Services updates…

> The Fruit co could probably give Google a run if they opened up a web version. This isn't how Apple works. They make money from hardware sales - so there is a native app version of Apple Maps for both iOS and macOS. (And, with the recent updates, it is pretty damn great.)

Apple already released a JS SDK for Maps: https://developer.apple.com/maps/mapkitjs/
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