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Post by SamReidHughes » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 1:13 AM UTC

godelmachine wrote: post #117

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Everyone I've talked to in the industry views people with a Masters much less favorably than people with a Bachelors or PhD. And from experience I can say there is a shockingly high number of people with Masters in Comp Sci churning through the hiring pool who can't write a single line of code or even valid HTML. I don't know why this is, but I think a Masters is getting a negative reputation to the point that you mi…

That's really shocking for me to know that a Master's degree is frowned upon these days. However, since its one of my life's dream to get a MS in CS from US, I will do it.

Post by learnstats2 » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 9:39 AM UTC

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I suggest they were incorrect in their claim not to be influenced by those things - that's why they have a diversity problem now. Edited to add: In 1998 I probably would have read this and cheered it as a place where diversity was recognised and welcomed; in 2018 I read it as "we don't feel we have to do anything about our unconscious biases, which we're satisfied with"

(warning typing on bumppy airplane ride on tiny phone, where is my emacs again ?) Given how successful how successful they are and how right they were on so many other things it is hard to tell if they were incorrect or not. But while we are at it let's talk about unconscious bias. This is brought up a lot. If it does exist and is affecting people's decisions why do we always talk about it in thr manner you just have…

Post by SamReidHughes » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 5:01 PM UTC

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Getting an MS is a sign that the candidate wasn't particularly good before getting one, because of the various reasons people get an MS. And it's not like they became a better developer as a result of getting one.

This is crazy! Is this notion prevalent everywhere in US? Shouldn't it be otherwise, like the student is hardworking and is persistent enough to get a Masters?

Post by Sileni » Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 2:01 AM UTC

kleiba wrote: post #122

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Back when Google was really cool! Who got hired into some of these positions?

I almost did. My professor would become Google's director of research and when she did she encouraged me to send a CV as I was about to finish my degree in C.S. I sent it but didn't get hired. Maybe I was just not Google material (i.e.: not good enough) but the official answer I got was that they were focussing on hiring U.S. residents at that point which I wasn't.

Post by SamReidHughes » Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 2:41 AM UTC

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The way to determine this is by measuring actual performance. With more information, like why or how they got an MS, the probability distribution changes. My impression is, there's a set of dimwits from a dimwit part of the industry that decide they should get a Master's in order to better their career. As opposed to, say, getting one right after school because you didn't want to enter the real world, or because a 5-…

You sound right in so many ways. >> Getting right after school. Isn’t getting some real work exp before joining Masters a good thing? >> 5 year MS Never heard of such a thing. Is there one?