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Re: Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chromebook

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Google voice numbers work, BTW. So since you ha E a Google account, make a burner G voice number and get the text that way.

You cannot create a Google Voice number without providing an existing, working, real number.

Huh, I didn't remember that. The last gv number I created was many years ago.

Re: Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chromebook

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Anyone over the age of 40 (and many younger) will have had a landline, almost all in the phone book. Name, address, and phone all neatly collected, very few were bothered.

Very good point. I had completely forgotten about that practice. Name, address, phone number. Seems surreal.

There's no problem with it in general when it's printed on a dead tree.

When it's available electronically, everything changes

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Can you also activate it and use it? Because I've seen SIM cards that can be bought in supermarkets in another country, but then you need to show your ID to an operator over Skype to activate it.

You can.

How?

Re: Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chromebook

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Maybe giving them your phone number gives Google another signal to catch hackers in another country trying to taking over your Google account. Or a malware server could be prevented from taking over tons of Google accounts? I don't want in abuse, so there are only guesses. I don't mind giving Google my hone number to keep my data secure, and I'm in the majority, so this is a good thing IMO.

You should, because anyone that can compromise your phone will be able to get into your email.

From there it's a small step to reset passwords (SMS 2FA won't help here, as they also have your phone) to all online services you signed up for with that email.

Re: Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chromebook

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Sonos just did the same. They want you to create an account (and therefore give them an email) and otherwise are effectively bricking the device in the latest update. Was time to get rid of this pos.

Doesn't Apple do that too? One of the reasons I use Linux on my MacBook.

No. You can give your email and it enables some additional functionality such as iCloud if you want to opt in to that but it’s not required.

When it asks if you have an Apple ID (which can be any email address) there is a skip button in very plain language on a very uncluttered screen where it is very easy to read.

And no, it never asks for a phone number. You are free to add one later though if you choose. But the OS doesn’t want it or use it...

The only place I can think of where you can put in your phone number is the Messages app, which is not even part of the OS.

You would do this on your own initiative by the way, not requested by the app or by the OS. Putting your number into that allows SMS messages to appear on your computer.

Re: Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chromebook

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Fair enough. I'd just pick up a random sim card at any supermarket, comes with a free phone number.

FYI being able to just buy a random SIM a any supermarket is not common outsid the UK.

It is common at least in most of Central and Eastern Europe.

Re: Tell HN: Google requiring phone number to log into Chromebook

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I have a similar problem with yandex. It's not hardware, just an email account, but I'm locked out of one I used for stuff because they are now asking me for my phone number because of "suspicious activity". I don't want to give them one.

Yup. And Yandex is one of the only free email services left that doesn't require a phone number to register yet they stuck me with a lockout on the account weeks later (still haven't bothered to re-activate the account yet).

Not to mention that I created both a custom question and answer with randomly generated strings that couldn't possibly have been known by anyone else, which they confirmed as correct during the lockout and still are demanding a phone number to 'verify'. I mean, really now, how on earth would giving any random phone number further verify I'm the account holder when I already know the correct randomly generated password, secret question and secret answer.

Gmail has similarly locked out various accounts with this despite no actual suspicious activity and having a completely unique password. It's a transparent effort by all these companies to gather more user details.

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I've had this happen with gmail accounts randomly. Most of the time with computers I've been using for years on the same network. The worst occasion I've ever had was the one time I was traveling. I was getting by with only wifi and, naturally, didn't have a phone number to confirm my account with. I didn't have a number bound to my account, either, making the whole process pointless. How did I get into my account? I…

What on earth are those of us supposed to do that don't have a phone?

ProtonMail.
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