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Microwave Weapons Are Suspect in Ills of U.S. Embassy Workers

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Post by scottlocklin »

jessaustin wrote: post #42
shindog wrote: post #31

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Easy it’s casus belli to create (likely already exist) and use similar weapons.

The fact that such alleged attacks are reported both in Cuba and in China, which nations have very little history of technical collaboration, makes it more likely that the alleged weapon was actually used by elements of USA bureaucracy. USA diplomats are the common thread here, no matter what purpose is assumed. It will certainly not be the first case of those serving the military-industrial complex being directly vi…

Or, as I said above, it's simple USGov incompetence. Which, sadly, is almost always correct.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/finally-a-l...

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Post by kart23 »

thefounder wrote: post #93
stephen_g wrote: post #46

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The US has installed or supported more than a few dictators... Do you really think that American intervention has anything to do with democracy?

I believe people want to promote/support their values and it's the same with the governments. U.S. always tried to install democracies (i.e after ww2, Afganistan) but I've never seen a dictatorship installing or promoting democracies.

Iran??

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

ScottBurson wrote: post #79
_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #59

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From the linked article: "A score in the bottom 5% would typically mean there is a problem. But Shura pointed out that the diplomats were found to be “impaired” if they scored in the bottom 40% in any one of the tests. In their letter, the doctors said it was “inappropriate” to conclude that any of the patients were impaired. "

What these doctors are missing is the power of statistical correlation to separate signal from noise. Yes, a single individual testing below 40% means nothing, but 20 people (or however many it was) all from the same office testing below 40% is starting to be significant.

They've tested 6, don't know how they drew the sample.

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Post by jessaustin »

scottlocklin wrote: post #121
jessaustin wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that such alleged attacks are reported both in Cuba and in China, which nations have very little history of technical collaboration, makes it more likely that the alleged weapon was actually used by elements of USA bureaucracy. USA diplomats are the common thread here, no matter what purpose is assumed. It will certainly not be the first case of those serving the military-industrial complex being directly vi…

Or, as I said above, it's simple USGov incompetence. Which, sadly, is almost always correct. https://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/finally-a-l...

That's an interesting article, but in fairness it's at least as general as TFA. Yes that is one plausible explanation, but verifiable facts are so hard to come by on this topic, and there are so many powerful interests involved, that we ought to be quite skeptical of everything we see.

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Post by madengr »

nickysielicki wrote: post #118
madengr wrote: post #17

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Curiosity. Why not? It’s not inherently dangerous. I’ve had real RF burns from tuning high power microwave amps. The RADAR tick is EE folklore, from your brain expanding a few microns at the pulse rate. As I said, takes a huge power density to do this. Cataracts are an issue with long term exposure. I guess we’ll know in the near future if this group of people has a higher incidence of cataracts.

Tell me more about your microwave amp RF burns, are you into amateur EME comms?

Ham, yes. EME no (yet). Putting fingers down on 0.5 mm traces carrying 50W at S-band will char your skin. Just tuning amps with golf tees and copper lead frames.

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Post by nickysielicki »

madengr wrote: post #125
nickysielicki wrote: post #118

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Tell me more about your microwave amp RF burns, are you into amateur EME comms?

Ham, yes. EME no (yet). Putting fingers down on 0.5 mm traces carrying 50W at S-band will char your skin. Just tuning amps with golf tees and copper lead frames.

I suppose you work in aerospace and/or DoD? Sounds like you are up to some very fun stuff.

Man, I wish I has the foresight at 18 to study EE instead of going for CS.

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