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The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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I mean, this is pretty much just running an extension cord to a nuclear sub. Why not?

Because there is zero market for it especially after Fukushima. It was tried by the recently privatised French military shipyards as a way to diversify (that's the Flexblue project mentioned in the article) and just couldn't be sold.

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Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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It has one 800 MW breeder that has been operating at full power for two years. Plans to build more of them in China appear to have been shelved. The successor BN-1200 implementation has also been suspended. The 6 reactors that Russia currently has under construction are all PWRs. I think that referring to breeders as future reactors (in the context of commercial power plants) is appropriate.

But it’s not like it’s a brand new design just out of prototyping. It’s a continuation of a 350 MW unit that ran for decades and provided drinking water. Point is the Russians have breeder technology fairly well figured out.

The BN-800 is certainly better proven than other breeder designs, which are either much smaller or operate only in PowerPoint slides. Can it or something like it be built at prices to make breeder power reactors commercially mainstream? That's still unknown. Commercial viability is the biggest unknown for every new power reactor design.

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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>No sane govt will allow a foreign power to literally be able to shutdown one of their cities on a whim. Hasn't Gasprom done this [cut supply] in the past but continues to have customers in Europe? If it's cheap enough they will probably have customers.

After a long running dispute over theft of gas intended for western Europe, Gasprom cut off gas to Ukraine for 3 days in winter 2006 [1]. Note that Naftogaz (Ukraine gas organisation) later admitted to this theft, which was worth $3 billion. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_dis...

Please note, that no theft was admitted by Naftogaz (outside usual Russian circle of propaganda).

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, this is pretty much just running an extension cord to a nuclear sub. Why not?

Because there is zero market for it especially after Fukushima. It was tried by the recently privatised French military shipyards as a way to diversify (that's the Flexblue project mentioned in the article) and just couldn't be sold.

Its a shame IMO. There are lots of problems with nuclear power, but at least the problems are ones that make sense to humans. It seems like nuclear waste would be easier to handle than a ruined atmosphere.
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