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Have you lined this up already? Do you have examples of places paying London salaries to remote employees?
a lot of companies pay salaries agnostic to where you are. Or do very little adjustment. You can look at buffer's new pay system (it's all open). A lot of other remote company do the same or something pretty similar.
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Have you lined this up already? Do you have examples of places paying London salaries to remote employees?
London salaries are surprisingly low to this US-based employer with employees in a handful of cities around the world. I was expecting “NYC salaries” and instead found more like “Atlanta salaries” which I can’t figure out how the economics works for London-based employees. Given that, lots of US employers with remote work available will be able to hit London salary level I think.
I don't think there is much more to it than that. People just enjoy living there even if it doesn't make as much sense economically.
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a lot of companies pay salaries agnostic to where you are. Or do very little adjustment. You can look at buffer's new pay system (it's all open). A lot of other remote company do the same or something pretty similar.
Google doesn't - why would they pay the same for a physically present vs a remote.
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Almost all programmers I know are not passionate about their jobs. It's a job, not their life. Yet they write good code and deliver on schedule. Outside of the HN filter bubble this is perfectly normal. Insinuating that people intentionally write bad code for monetary reasons is rude imho. It's like this for the vast majority of jobs, inside and outside of tech. People do them because they have to pay their bills and…
I don't think I've met anyone that's passionate about their job. About programming? Sure! But it's really, really difficult to be passionate about a specific job unless it's your own company.
How sad! I know not every job excites passion but really, nobody?
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London salaries are surprisingly low to this US-based employer with employees in a handful of cities around the world. I was expecting “NYC salaries” and instead found more like “Atlanta salaries” which I can’t figure out how the economics works for London-based employees. Given that, lots of US employers with remote work available will be able to hit London salary level I think.
> I can’t figure out how the economics works for London-based employees. Well, they don't have the privilege of being able to work in the US, so basically it is what it is.
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I don't think I've met anyone that's passionate about their job. About programming? Sure! But it's really, really difficult to be passionate about a specific job unless it's your own company.
Hi, I'm one of those people. Been in game development 11 years, now a lead developer for a project that I would buy and play as a gamer, doing exactly what I was dreaming of doing when I was around 7 years old. It's very grueling emotionally and takes a great toll, but I have no other big goals in life right now other than to do this right.
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>He states himself that programming was just "means to an end" for him. So why even bother? Because you gotta pay the bills somehow. This is something you only ever hear from people in our profession and I think it sometimes leads to self-exploitation. Nobody would ever say "He states himself that driving the garbage truck was just "means to an end" for him. So why even bother?"
But, hopefully, and rarely nobody has to live in that conditions to drive a garbage truck. There is so many stuff out there he he could've paid the bills with, why did it had to be programming in this kind of experience?
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Its easy to tell who has a passion for it and who doesn't. I've never met anyone with a passion for programming, but I've met a lot of people who misuse the word passion.
You must have worked at the wrong sort of company then - they do exist
This is of course in no way representative. If you are a software developer in SF you get very quickly to $140k+. That guy in the closet was probably stashing way North of $60k annually, not counting equity. Do this for 7-10 years and you can retire silver else and are probably in your early 30s. If you work at FAANG you can easily take home way North of $200k. No reason to rent a illegal closet at that point unless…
>>That guy in the closet was probably stashing way North of $60k annually, not counting equity. Do this for 7-10 years and you can retire silver else and are probably in your early 30s. Retire with $750k (assuming stock market gains over that 10 years)? Man, I don’t know many people who can do that, at least not in the US. Don’t get me wrong, it gets you out of the “work or starve” level, but it’s also not exactly “I…