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Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by dddddaviddddd »

S_A_P wrote: post #106

I can also add a solid reason to build a hackintosh: There is a systemic, as yet unresolved issue that a non trivial percentage of users are experiencing with the iMac Pro and 2018 refresh Macbook Pro. While unproven, it seems related to the T2 chip and it causes kernel panics in certain cases. There is a lengthy thread on the apple support community about this[1], and Ive worked with an apple engineer off and on for…

Occasional unresolved kernel panics are a common feature on Hackintoshes. Why trust enthusiasts to provide support better than Apple?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by ageitgey »

I can tell you from experience that building a Hackintosh is a terrible idea for almost all people.

I have no moral objection to it and I totally understand the motivation. Apple is completely failing to provide hardware that runs at a fraction of the performance you'd get from building a commodity $2500 AMD/Nvidia desktop even if you give Apple $7000 for a Pro model. Apple's platform especially sucks if you do anything with deep learning since they refuse to sell anything with Nvidia GPUs anymore.

But the actual experience of running a Hackintosh is terrible. Even if you buy exactly the right components, it will still take you days to get everything patched and working perfectly. And then every minor security patch will completely break your system, so you end up never updating. Finally you hit a point where your system is so far behind that you give up and either buy a Mac or just install Linux/Windows.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by pmiller2 »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #37
peatmoss wrote: post #14

Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I look at it another way. Apple, as a company is failing to meet the needs of some of its users: - You can’t get an upgradable pro machine - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Every Hackintosh c…

I really don't get why I would want to run an operating system where the vendor refuses to support my hardware. Also, the font color on this blog is absolutely horrible.

I think this is the real reason not to build a hackintosh.

I don’t find the “theft” argument compelling, because Apple doesn’t even sell OSX anymore. They’re a hardware company.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by eanzenberg »

neon_electro wrote: post #47
wodenokoto wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) You mean like, a PS/2 keyboard or what are you on about? Any bluetooth or usb keyboard works on any regular mac. > - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Again, what are you on about? A hackintosh is running a just as ios-ivied macOS as a regular mac.

I think he's implying that you would run an older, less iOS-ified version of MacOS on the Hackintosh.

You can still do the same on mac hardware though.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by didip »

I don't get it. If you are going to pave your own path, rejecting Apple ecosystem, then why not just be part of Linux ecosystem?

It probably takes less money and effort to simply buy a Linux laptop.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by eanzenberg »

BillinghamJ wrote: post #23
komali2 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I'm the opposite. I was tired of jumping through insane hoops for years to get Mac to have good window management, or make keybindings the same in all apps, or have my desktop look the way I wanted, so I switched to Ubuntu 18. I actually scheduled a PTO day for it because I thought it would take like 18 hours to get drivers config'd and all that (my last try was like Ubuntu 14 or something), but it literally w…

I think that's one of the key things about using Apple products. If you want to have a good time, you need to embrace the way Apple wants you to use the product. And then generally, you'll find that it really does "just work", most of their decisions were right and you can get on with just using the thing. For the more "power users" who prefer to customise things to a fine degree and make particular choices a typical…

I like the euphemism "power user" to refer to people who like to spend their free-time on meta-work.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by sbuk »

mschuster91 wrote: post #49
wodenokoto wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - you can’t get a good keyboard (for some definitions of good) You mean like, a PS/2 keyboard or what are you on about? Any bluetooth or usb keyboard works on any regular mac. > - macOS gets more iOS-ified with each release and some people don’t like that Again, what are you on about? A hackintosh is running a just as ios-ivied macOS as a regular mac.

> You mean like, a PS/2 keyboard or what are you on about? I believe GP refers to the crapboards in the recent MacBook Pro lineup, which are amazingly bad. Also, IIRC Apple doesn't offer a real wired keyboard anymore.

The “crapboards” are very much a case of YMMV. I much prefer the one on the new MBPs to the spongy abomination that is the current Thinkpad keyboard.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by freehunter »

greedo wrote: post #40
bumholio wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This generalized hate towards change is typically a symptom of age, not technology. It happens to the best of us.

I've disliked change since I was a teenager. Perhaps you're making a generalization?

What gave it away, where they said "generalized" or where they said "typically"?

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by sneak »

S_A_P wrote: post #106

I can also add a solid reason to build a hackintosh: There is a systemic, as yet unresolved issue that a non trivial percentage of users are experiencing with the iMac Pro and 2018 refresh Macbook Pro. While unproven, it seems related to the T2 chip and it causes kernel panics in certain cases. There is a lengthy thread on the apple support community about this[1], and Ive worked with an apple engineer off and on for…

Counter anecdata: my iMac Pro has never kernel paniced in months of heavy daily use.
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