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Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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Education would be a good start. Guess who can decide about what we are taught? Governments.

People know their personal largest impact is cars and meat. But personal convenience has always beaten doing the right thing.

[edit] I've meant beef when I've said meat. I very rarely eat any meat and if then only beef, so sorry for the confusion.

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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Telling people "you are the enemy" certainly isn't going to win them over to your side.

True, but clearly labeling people as "the enemy" might help others decide who to believe.

Calling someone "the enemy" doesn't help people decide who to believe. Belief about scientific topics like global warming should be based on facts not in-group/out-group thinking.

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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Heat isn't high enough yet. Average global temperature is 14C degrees. Cambrian Expansion data shows it was 22C degrees.

There is now sufficient data to show concrete as being the #1 CO2 producer, much greater than manufacturing, or the meat industry. As shown by the rock mark on the Isle of the Dead and sea data, the ocean level rose during a period of sustained cooling (doesn't make logical sense, does it?).

We are very far away from actually predicting weather. If Goldman Sachs cannot predict winners of the 2018 FIFA World Cup and they have the best statisticians and modelers that money can buy, why can't we have accurate weather reports?

Re: Earth at risk of becoming 'hothouse' if tipping point reached, report warns

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But 100-200 years is very little time for comparison isn't it? Is there any presumed data on what it was before that?

Loads: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record Do bear in mind that most of the costs of global warming are based around: 1) It is happening much faster than we can cope with. If it was happening over 10,000 years then we'd slowly adapt. Or die out. One or the other. 2) Our cities are mostly built on coastlines, and will therefore be hit dramatically by severe weather and by sea rises.

I ask people to watch this as a reminder that science is based on empirical evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-_SXLMMfo

Safe for work, and it stars Leonard Nimoy!

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