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Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Post by walshemj »

jonlucc wrote: post #118
kevinmgranger wrote: post #83

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I think docked bike shares had the following problems: - they were spaced too far apart - they weren't in residential areas The dockless bikes, and scooters, were a response to that. We could go back to using docks if we solved those two problems. Or what if there was a hybrid approach, incentivising users who brought their bike / scooter to a dock by making the ride cheaper or free?

In my city, the docked bikes are $8 for a day pass. That's way too high an entry point for me to ride to lunch a little farther than I can walk. Not to mention that I might get on a bike and find my destination rack full, therefore having to go to the next nearest dock to try to end my ride (and walk that distance on foot). A more economical choice is the $80/yr pass, but that's also a very steep entry point.

Your probably not the market in London its mostly commuters where $80 is trivial compared to the several k that your season ticket

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Post by walshemj »

txsh wrote: post #90
LyndsySimon wrote: post #67

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This hasn't been my experience at all when walking around Santa Monica. It seems like about half the time Birds are parked in a reasonable place - in an alcove designed for bike parking, on the edge of the sidewalk on the Promenade, off to the side next to a door - and the rest are just... random. It's not at all uncommon to see three or four Birds parked in the middle of the sidewalk in front of a popular store or r…

I know this might be a radical proposal but have you considered, when encountering a bicycle blocking part of a sidewalk, moving slightly to the left. I admit its a crazy proposal but it might help you while you’re waiting for the state to implement the death penalty for scooter infractions.

wont work for many disabled people

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Post by chii »

walshemj wrote: post #121
jonlucc wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my city, the docked bikes are $8 for a day pass. That's way too high an entry point for me to ride to lunch a little farther than I can walk. Not to mention that I might get on a bike and find my destination rack full, therefore having to go to the next nearest dock to try to end my ride (and walk that distance on foot). A more economical choice is the $80/yr pass, but that's also a very steep entry point.

Your probably not the market in London its mostly commuters where $80 is trivial compared to the several k that your season ticket

You could just buy a bike for 80 bucks (albeit a poor quality one).

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Post by conradev »

bit_logic wrote: post #103

I was thinking about the debate on scooters and it made me realize something: Bike lanes are a disaster, probably one of the biggest mistakes in road design and planning. The basic idea was sound, but it was done the wrong way. Everywhere you see a bike lane, that should've been the concrete sidewalk extended into that area with a painted stripe separating pedestrians and bicycles. Go to a beach and you can see the c…

It’s not the majority, but Berlin has ~150km of bicycle paths on sidewalks: https://web.archive.org/web/20080922140453/http://www.stadte...

When I was there, I kept walking in the bike lane by accident and ended up upsetting some cyclists.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Post by beamatronic »

bit_logic wrote: post #103

I was thinking about the debate on scooters and it made me realize something: Bike lanes are a disaster, probably one of the biggest mistakes in road design and planning. The basic idea was sound, but it was done the wrong way. Everywhere you see a bike lane, that should've been the concrete sidewalk extended into that area with a painted stripe separating pedestrians and bicycles. Go to a beach and you can see the c…

I do have faith that all the necessary “revolutions” like this will ultimately get done by the millenial generation.

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Post by paulie_a »

Analemma_ wrote: post #66
paulpauper wrote: post #43

I think it's time for someone to invent Uber Walk: someone physically picks you up and carries you to your destination

You can hail hand-pulled rickshaws in a couple cities in India, which seems pretty close to this. There might even be an app for it.

Also in Tulsa Oklahoma.

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Post by tedunangst »

whelchel wrote: post #106
bit_logic wrote: post #103

I was thinking about the debate on scooters and it made me realize something: Bike lanes are a disaster, probably one of the biggest mistakes in road design and planning. The basic idea was sound, but it was done the wrong way. Everywhere you see a bike lane, that should've been the concrete sidewalk extended into that area with a painted stripe separating pedestrians and bicycles. Go to a beach and you can see the c…

There is some merit to that idea but I think you may be missing a few things. Often, parking is placed between a bike lane and the side walk. Bikes need to be able to cross lanes, often in cities, to make left turns. How can they do that when they're up on a curb to start, but additionally, with potential street parking in the way? I think technically in many jurisdictions, bikes are to be treated as vehicles. Whethe…

People in wheelchairs find ways to cross the street.

Re: Uber Will Rent Scooters Through Its App in Partnership with Lime

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Post by wpietri »

xanderjanz wrote: post #93
wpietri wrote: post #60

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That $1400/month number strikes me as dubious. They mention the charger earns $30-50/day. Assuming a standard 22-day work month, $1400 would have to be $63/day. A more realistic number seems to be $40 * 22 days, or $880/month. Which is not a lot of money in the expensive cities Lime is active in.

It's common for gig companies to limit payouts, because it lowers the cost of fraud, which is common. A smart charger charges for multiple companies, and could easily hit higher payouts that way.

Huh. Wouldn't charging for multiple companies increase my ability to commit fraud? I steal smaller amounts from each company, and each company having less data makes it harder for them to detect fraud.

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Post by arosier »

sharkmerry wrote: post #119
arosier wrote: post #79

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I worked as a charger - made $11k in a month. Only had a month until SF shut them down. I imagine payouts will get compressed as the market matures. Earnings are also highly dependent upon the scooter density of the area you service and the amount of charger competition in that area.

at $20/payout, that would be 550 charged in a month or 18/day. Doesnt it take like 4 hours to charge each one? How much did your electric bill go up?

Average payout was $12 for Lime, $12.27 for Bird over the 905 scooters I charged. These were inflated payouts due to the launch in SF. Electricity usage was surprisingly minimal due to usage being in non-peak hours (late night/early morning). Bird quotes $.20/scooter charging expense. My costs were closer to $.02/scooter.
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