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Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Not only that but the article implies that they "beat" facial recognition and yet the makeup in question wouldn't fool Apple's FaceID, which is probably the largest facial recognition platform in the wild, because it's not just using camera data. This might fool Facebook's matching algorithms from pictures but it's not going to ruin anyone's day from a security standpoint.

> [...] and yet the makeup in question wouldn't fool Apple's FaceID, which is probably the largest facial recognition platform in the wild, because it's not just using camera data. What sensors is FaceID using besides the camera?

IR sensor

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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The title of this article seems to imply that face painting was intentionally used among Juggalos to deter computerized facial recognition - of course we know that's not the case. Though to be fair, somewhere in the history of the practice, it may be argued that it was to throw off human face-recognition. This reminds me of a sort of creative look into futuristic fashion I saw a bit ago: https://cvdazzle.com Where th…

That link is so wildly cyberpunk! I love it... as janky as the future is it is here, isn't it?

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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I would imagine there is a pretty strong first amendment case against such laws in the United States. Mask laws have been successfully challenged on those grounds (though sometimes the challenges have been unsuccessful).

I strongly support anti-mask laws... especially in situations when you have two political opponents coming up to one another in the streets. Masks make it way too easy for some kind of provocateur to instigate fights or start a stampede. And this may be egged on my professional dark PR/intelligence people to make one side or another look good/bad.

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Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Facial recognition is only “beaten” when a person’s normal face can go undetected without looking like a fucking juggalo .

Maybe you can have advance air support. A drone with an IR laser targeted by a lens detector. But you'd need to avoid targeting people wearing glasses.

But no, that's silly. Really, you just need to give up on the idea of being anonymous in public. Because that was never something that you could count on.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Facial recognition is only “beaten” when a person’s normal face can go undetected without looking like a fucking juggalo .

Maybe you can have advance air support. A drone with an IR laser targeted by a lens detector. But you'd need to avoid targeting people wearing glasses. But no, that's silly. Really, you just need to give up on the idea of being anonymous in public. Because that was never something that you could count on.

If only there were some sort of light we could shine to wash out a person’s face with, but have it only be visible to cameras and invisible to humans.

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Maybe you can have advance air support. A drone with an IR laser targeted by a lens detector. But you'd need to avoid targeting people wearing glasses. But no, that's silly. Really, you just need to give up on the idea of being anonymous in public. Because that was never something that you could count on.

If only there were some sort of light we could shine to wash out a person’s face with, but have it only be visible to cameras and invisible to humans.

That would likely just flag you as someone trying to obfuscate facial recognition. Making you quite unique, no?

I have noticed that it's very hard to recognize faces of people with very black skin, under low-light conditions. So I can imagine black makeup that's 100% non-reflective across a wide range of wavelengths. But then there's millimeter-wave radar. How would one block reflection of mmW radar?

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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cvdazzle is explicitly mentioned in the article and is claimed to be less effective than Juggalo makeup.

In some cases, it said.

The article says in some cases, for some reason, but the link the article references for this statement is less ambiguous and actually states unequivocally that it's "less effective than juggalo makeup"[0]

[0] https://twitter.com/tahkion/status/1013324066361524224

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat or sunglasses. "No shoes, no shirt, no service" has also been a thing for as long as convenience stores have been around. Not that far of a stretch to think this will ultimately extend to face paint. If you want true anonymity, just wear a motorcyle helmet everywhere. We still don't know who The Stig is.

> Your bank will likely not let you in if you're wearing a hat I've never heard of this. > "No shoes, no shirt" That's health code, not appearance.

>> "No shoes, no shirt"

>That's health code, not appearance.

There's no such health code. At least the "shoes" part has been thoroughly researched:

http://www.barefooters.org/health-codes-and-osha/

Re: Juggalos figured out how to beat facial recognition

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>I've never heard of this. There's a rap record label in the UK called "No Hats No Hoods", because of the ubiquity of that sign in certain parts of London. https://nohatsnohoods.bandcamp.com/

OK, but it's not a thing in the US. I pretty much always wear dark glasses and a big floppy hat in the summer, and have never been challenged at my bank. But then, maybe that's because I'm that guy in that hat ;)

Its a thing in the US. If you havent been challenged, its because you dont live in one of its many ghettoes.
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