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Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by TheReveller »

theptip wrote: post #70
ssijak wrote: post #17

What is the use for this? I mean how many people actually use such tools for actual day to day dev? Maybe for some quick edit if you don`t have laptop/computer at hand, but otherwise I see no real advantage of this.

> how many people actually use such tools for actual day to day dev According to an Xoogler acquaintance, he used a web IDE for all his development; I'm not sure how widespread this is in Google, but the answer to your question could be "lots". (Any Googlers want to chime in with estimates on % of devs using web IDEs?)

Hard to say the exact %, but the web ide is more than capable for simple changes. If you're the kind of programmer that doesn't use auto complete or you don't need to do extensive refactoring that requires understanding the source, it's good for nearly everything.

It helps that there's a single source repo to work from, a remote filesystem for all source code whether working remotely or local that syncs immediately, and a single build system.

For me, I do all work from my laptop in the web IDE and save harder or larger things for when I'm at my desk. It's pretty great that I can start a change in one, then switch to the other seamlessly e.g. write the bulk in an IDE, then make changes in response to comments via the web IDE.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by pjmlp »

qop wrote: post #61
tootie wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One day, I can toss out all my expensive hardware and do my job with a hi-res Chromebook and steady wifi.

That's really what I hope the future is. I'm shocked Google hasn't tripled their efforts to make the chromebook a code editor masterpiece. You'd think they'd have spearheaded it themselves. Now I'm keeping my eyes on Microsoft bringing arm64 hardware in the game. 20+hr battery life + wifi means I could just work wherever I want during the day and then go home at night and charge. Adventure coding, EVERY DAY! That'd b…

I don't miss the days of time-sharing and X-Windows sessions using a dumb terminal.

Everything old is new again, just with pretty colours.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by pjmlp »

tootie wrote: post #78
qop wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's really what I hope the future is. I'm shocked Google hasn't tripled their efforts to make the chromebook a code editor masterpiece. You'd think they'd have spearheaded it themselves. Now I'm keeping my eyes on Microsoft bringing arm64 hardware in the game. 20+hr battery life + wifi means I could just work wherever I want during the day and then go home at night and charge. Adventure coding, EVERY DAY! That'd b…

What would it take to run Electron apps on a Chromebook? Just gimme VS Code and I'm good to go.

The OS is already juggling browser processes, no need to plague it with extra browser runtimes, that is what PWAs are for.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by pjmlp »

ssijak wrote: post #17

What is the use for this? I mean how many people actually use such tools for actual day to day dev? Maybe for some quick edit if you don`t have laptop/computer at hand, but otherwise I see no real advantage of this.

Companies want to force us back to the days of time-sharing taking the power out of our computers, placing the gems of our work gated into their systems.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by bartread »

ehsankia wrote: post #74
zachlatta wrote: post #18

Wow, very cool. Lots of new players in this space: https://repl.it , https://glitch.me , and now GitLab (and I'd be surprised if GitHub doesn't follow in tow). Cloud9's acquisition really left a big hole in the market. AFAIK there's still nothing out there that gives you a decent code editor (edit multiple files, have multiple tabs open, etc) that also gives you access to a Linux shell and ability to expose ports lik…

Honestly I generally don't want to do my entire development on a Web IDE, but I do think it's very useful for a repo hosting site to have editing tools, as I often find myself wanting to fix something quick away from my setup. Web IDEs in general are a great concept though, mostly because developers generally love having their editor customized the way they like it, and from there, having it in the cloud accessible f…

I've heard this a lot since around 2012/13 when I first became aware of C9, and even gave it a go. Granted it was and is impressive as a technical achievement, but I really don't see the use case at all, other than as something to use as a quick fix embedded by a repo host.

My laptop is a tool I use every single day and have with me almost all of the time. I do not need internet connectivity to remain productive, which is a huge boon to me when travelling. An IDE that requires constant, reliable connectivity to work is therefore of little use to me.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by qop »

shayac2 wrote: post #80
qop wrote: post #34

I'd love to see more symbiosis between editors and deployment tools. I could write my code and tests in the browser editor, and just have a dashboard with everything I need to know. Then when I'm at home I can use my editor and still hack the old fashioned way. I wish Microsoft has bought gitlab instead of github. They could have this new editor tie in with azure or something cool like that. Like websharper, but for…

Gitlab is using Monaco for this. An open sourced online editor brought to you by none other than Microsoft. ( https://github.com/Microsoft/monaco-editor ) I couldn't dig it up now but I recall seeing that Microsoft started this project as an online code editor for Azure, later using it in VSCode. So it would not be surprising if they bring this to github some time in the future.

I'm well aware of monaco.

I doubt something like what gitlab is building will come to github. Maybe a quick edit editor, but nothing more.

Gitlab is going to integrate this to gitlab's CICD infra.

If github gets one, it'll be a shitty typo fixer, that's it.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by jakecodes »

ssijak wrote: post #17

What is the use for this? I mean how many people actually use such tools for actual day to day dev? Maybe for some quick edit if you don`t have laptop/computer at hand, but otherwise I see no real advantage of this.

Hey there. I'm the developer who made the POC. My original idea came after watching non-technical people try to make changes to the readme. They would have to ask for a lot of help to get the terminal open or use a GUI. When really all they wanted to do was make a quick change.

The idea is that there's a lot of different users using git and I want to make it accessible for everyone.

Re: GitLab Web IDE

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Post by welly »

bitL wrote: post #59

GitLab is slowly on its way to compete with Microsoft, Google, JetBrains... I hope you guys create your own programming language as well to become a real software company ;-) Good luck!

What are they now if not a "real software company"?
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