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Re: Read first pages of novels, and reveal the author and title if you're hooked

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It's funny that most of these that I read start off with a very annoying, cliched "writer" tone. I've always had the impression that authors just can't help buy try to prove how clever they are in the first paragraph at the expense of making the story compelling. It's like everyone has delusions that the book they're writing is going to be the next Moby Dick, so that beginning must be literary dammit.

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Re: Read first pages of novels, and reveal the author and title if you're hooked

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An interesting example, one of the best-known book openings in French literature ("Aujourd'hui, maman est morte."), and the difficulties translating the sentence in English: https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/lost-in-translat...

Interesting article, and I believe I have a better translation: "Today, my mom died." It sounds better than just "mom" and seems to express the right level of closeness. OTOH I think it's often appropriate to keep "mamma" in Italian movies and texts because it carries a huge amount of connotations, which "maman" doesn't.

> Interesting article, and I believe I have a better translation: "Today, my mom died."

Well it's not an accurate translation, 'my' create a distance between the narrator and the mother that you don't have in the original sentence.

You traduction is much more objective than what the author wrote.

Re: Read first pages of novels, and reveal the author and title if you're hooked

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I felt pretty much the same way when reading it. "The Name of the Wind" is rather unusual as a novel because those first chapters are pretty fundamentally different than the rest of the novel. Not just in terms of plot, but I think also the general tone and style. I don't actually have a count, but I think it's a good 50-100 pages before the novel falls into its rhythm. It's not that the beginning is bad (in my opini…

That's really interesting. The first few pages come pretty close to poetry in my opinion. For me its those interludes that raise TNOTW into a class above the normal Harry Potter Copycat Formula that is so popular now. I never even considered the possibility that, those bits would be putting people off. It's pretty clear that its those sections were Patrick Ruthfuss strives for perfection, that is taking so long to co…

I should add that I like the other interludes, and now when I re-read that first part I enjoy it. It's just the initial reading of the set up, introducing Chronicler, the stuff with the scrael, etc. I didn't know where Ruthfuss was taking this.

Re: Read first pages of novels, and reveal the author and title if you're hooked

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It's not the same thing. On amazon you judge a book by its cover. On this site you judge it by its content

You are judging the book on the basis of a page here. Not much different from judging the book on basis of the cover.

The two are very different. A book is mostly prose, in black and white, by the author. A cover is graphic design elements (and even the text is treated as a design element on the cover), most often in color, created by someone else.

Re: Read first pages of novels, and reveal the author and title if you're hooked

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post #73

It's funny that most of these that I read start off with a very annoying, cliched "writer" tone. I've always had the impression that authors just can't help buy try to prove how clever they are in the first paragraph at the expense of making the story compelling. It's like everyone has delusions that the book they're writing is going to be the next Moby Dick, so that beginning must be literary dammit.

I don't know which specific novels you're referring to, but the first sentence/paragraph/chapter of a novel often need to have a different tone from the rest. The opening of a novel sets the scene and sets the tone and raises expectations for the rest of the story in a way that a strictly narrative opening wouldn't. In other words, these "literary"-style openings are no more and no less clichéd than any other.
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