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Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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Have you tought starting going a gym. Getting more muscle definitely helps.

I took up rock climbing early on, and in fact that hobby became motivation for losing weight instead of the other way around. I sped a good 6+ hours at the rock climbing gym every week. It was not sufficient to fight the compulsion and I still have to average around 1600kcal/day to maintain.

have you tried low or zero carb diets? I have found that I can much more easily go without eating on a high fat high protein diet.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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I can 100% vouch for this, roughly 90 days ago I implemented:

* 16h+ intermittent fasting

* increased exercise (>600kcal Apple Watch active kcal)

* caloric restriction (average of 450kcal deficit).

I lost 20lbs in 90 days (5ft5in 145 -> 125). I've since gone to a full ketogenic diet as an n=1 experiment.

I find the research on this lacking, but fascinating -- its been a very educational experience. Based on the many papers I've read, and talks I've listened to, it seems like society's current ailments of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease (and maybe Alzheimers) tie back to excess carbohydrate consumption leading to hyperinsulinemia.

Re: this paper -- they cite that "Mice fed a high‐fat diet ad libitum develop obesity, elevated plasma glucose, insulin and leptin levels, and impaired glucose tolerance" However, reading the source for that, the diet of those mice was: "18% protein, 61% fat, 21% carbohydrates" -- probably still too many carbs.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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I'd be curious to hear more about what you experienced during your keto flu

For me it was very similar to the early stages of a bad flu. Tired, headaches, body aches, irritable, and mild nausea for about 5 days. I've heard that MCT oil can ease the transition a bit, but be careful because too much can cause stomach cramps and violent diarrhea. (I've never been able to handle more than one tablespoon at a time.)

Make sure you are getting enough sodium and potassium, its my understanding that being in ketosis increases excretion.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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I've had serious weight issues for my whole life, primarily due to my love of chocolate. As I approached 400 pounds, I took a hard look at myself and decided to make a change. For the past month (29 days now) I've been doing alternate-day fasting* where I eat about 2000-2500kcal on eat days and cap myself at about 100kcal of half-and-half with coffee on fast days (gotta get that joe). While a lot of it is no doubt no…

I just listened to The Obesity Code by Jason Fung and my mind is kinda blown. Everyone you've said matches what the book covers. The takeaway points are: - Raised insulin is the key driver in weight by preventing the burning of fat and triggers the storage to fat. Insulin is the hormone that tells allows cells to absorb glucose - Type 2 diabetes is caused by insulin resistance, which happens over years of prolonged p…

This thread about Dr. Fung was enlightening: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/comments/7jw4r9/the_obesity_...

OTOH I do think that IF is a "easy" way to control calories, though.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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No way?! How confident are you? Anyways, I mentioned Steve Jobs just as an interesting fact. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't personally believe that anybody should be cautious recommending a book. It's a whole separate topic, but in short, can't help one if he's stupid enough to try whatever is on the internet, but I'm glad to share useful information with the smarter one. Otherwise there is no neither progress n…

> No way?! How confident are you? Not just confident, but certain. From Jobs's authorized biography: To the horror of his friends and wife, Jobs decided not to have surgery to remove the tumor, which was the only accepted medical approach. "I really didn't want them to open up my body, so I tried to see if a few other things would work," he told me years later with a hint of regret. Specifically, he kept to a strict…

I read the book. It was a sarcastic comment. My point is that the reason why he died doesn't necessarily have to be linked with the Mucusless Diet Healing System, especially knowing that he didn't follow all the recommendations from the said book.

The reason I made my original comment is because the benefits of fasting described in the submission are known for almost 100 years now (to a certain extent) and one may find it interesting to know where the roots are coming from.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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I've had serious weight issues for my whole life, primarily due to my love of chocolate. As I approached 400 pounds, I took a hard look at myself and decided to make a change. For the past month (29 days now) I've been doing alternate-day fasting* where I eat about 2000-2500kcal on eat days and cap myself at about 100kcal of half-and-half with coffee on fast days (gotta get that joe). While a lot of it is no doubt no…

> My biggest take-away though is that fasting has helped me practice self-denial to the point where I can handle my sweet tooth very easily now.

Interesting. One of the benefits I've found from occasional food-abstinence is that I start remembering the distinction between (a) true hunger and (b) craving.

IME (as a male), cravings are almost always for carbs. It takes days of limiting my carb intake for the cravings to subside.

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Anecdotally what’s helped me get through the initial crappy feeling of cutting carbs is to eat more fat / protein and stay plenty hydrated. (Plus plenty of sleep.)

I become an asshole when I've cut most or all carbs. I don't know how to push through that.

At risk of going off thread and offering more anecdotal advice, I’ve switched my habits around so I eat carbs at night (mostly berries, vegetables.)

I also do the Saturday cheat day thing.

Re: Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting

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So do we know enough at this point to confidently recommend a fasting schedule that ought to be safe and worthwhile for most adults?

Or are we still bathing in incomplete/flawed studies, bad reporting, and the promotion of diet-fads?

This sounds like something I'd like to try if the reported upsides are real, but I don't have a lot of time to filter out junk science.

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