It is clear that FB does not plan to be GDPR compliant [1]
https://medium.com/@bozhobg/facebook-doesnt-plan-to-be-gdpr-...
Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tracking
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#122Believe me folks, just delete facebook. I've been so much happier since I did.
What about memes pages?
that's the only reason I keep my account. Also, I don't even see adds with and Ad-blocker. What are they going to try to sell me, a meme page subscription?
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#123Re: Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tracking
#124GDPR doesn't cover enough of the population using Facebook to warrant such a change to their business model where you can use the service without them using your data. They believe they are entrenched enough to just require this (and likely are for many EU residents).
As far as I know, the GDPR stipulates that you cannot deny people access to you service if they do not opt-in to tracking, unless the service you provide is very specifically a tracking service.
Tracking is not the primary service Facebook provides to their users, so the GDPR will not allow them to bar access for users who do not opt-in to being tracked.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's disconcerting to me that under the GDPR, online businesses appear to be losing the ability to deny services to a user who knowingly, and with clear consent, chooses to take personal responsibility over the data they provide to said businesses. Regardless of whether this is for the "greater good", this is deeply unsettling territory.
Your phrasing is confusing. Why would the business want to deny services to a user who chooses to take personal responsibility over the data they provide?
Sorry if it wasn't clear. I'm suggesting that a business should have some right to deny service to a user who chooses not to participate in tracking, so long as it's made abundantly and plainly clear to said user that they'd be tracked, and that the user consents to that.
Based on my interpretation, the GDPR simply precludes that possibility.
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#127GDPR doesn't cover enough of the population using Facebook to warrant such a change to their business model where you can use the service without them using your data. They believe they are entrenched enough to just require this (and likely are for many EU residents).
I'm really curious to find out if the GDPR privacy stance (I'm American, not well traveled, and with no non american social circle) is like the 'no JavaScript' community. Vastly over represented in the tech community and not really representative of the population as a whole. In other words, are 99% of European citizens going to just click through what ever annoying prompts they have to in order to get to their faceb…
I think the current population that wants GDPR privacy stance is small but feared to be influential by Facebook.
It also coincides with FB's recent privacy breach news and overall general public dissatisfaction with FB's policies.
I know a lot of folks who simply don't use FB and are realizing that it's "really not free" in liability terms.
So does this turn into a groundswell? Probably not, I agree with you. However, it does put some fences up that is probably causing FB to feel a bit more nervous. GDPR may be the first of many such efforts...
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
As an EU citizen I am offended by this regulation.
How? I mean, why are you offended by this attempt to curb the data that companies can collect on you without your consent?
How this reads: How are you offended by attempts to curb terrorism? How are you offended by attempts to save the children?
We can agree on intent and disagree on practice. I disagree with the GDPR in practice, but agree with its intent. I think there are many other ways to tackle these problems, and this is probably the worst one (especially to start with assuming this is the first really enforced one).
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#129IIRC, the GDPR is very explicit about what constitutes valid consent, so things like pre-checked check-boxes aren't valid. Is "consent" gained by a screen with only an "I agree" button even kosher by it?
My guess is that GDPR is not yet in effect thus they can use this to get consent in advance. After GDPR is in place these will be changed to comply with it.
Then they will have to ask again with a fully GDPR-compliant opt-in procedure, after the 25th.
You cannot grandfather in user consent, especially not with a blatantly non-compliant procedure like this one.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Greate, so now my account will just exist in some state of limbo...
That will result in a 4% revenue fine under GDPR rules if I read the correctly.
The 4% is a maximum fine, not a minimum. But indeed the regulators could choose to go quite high against a violator that is as persistently obstinate as Facebook despite having their level of resources and expertise.