Maybe I am not the target group but I can not think of a single website with autoplay video w sound.
What am I missing?
New autoplay policy in Chrome
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Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
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> I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay. ...because then it's not autoplay anymore?
"Allow this website to automatically play videos in the future" sounds exactly like autoplay to me. Just not the first time.
In incognito mode every time is the first time. No thank you very much, there are way too many "don't show this again" messages to go through already.
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
#123Can we find this auto-generated list of enabled/disabled sites anywhere? Can it be edited manually? Will Chrome notify why a particular site did/didn't auto-play a video? I like Inbox's recent behaviour that explains why it deems a particular email important - it would be good if this sort of explanation was more prevalent with publicly-available ML systems.
Also, I wonder where chrome stores the user’s autoplay history? Will it be cleared when wiping history? Cookies? Or is it never wiped, leaving a record of visited sites in its storage?
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cynicism aside, YouTube is a typical example of a good use for autoplay. A user clicking a link to YT almost always wants to watch the video. "Predictable" probably wasn't the right word for them to use, but I think this is a reasonable move by Google.
I don't want YouTube to autoplay, most of the time, I'm opening a lot of YT tabs at once and sometimes I need to seek out a specific one I am interested in most. It would be much nicer if the various plugins I use to control that behaviour wouldn't stop working every 4 months due to another youtube redesign (whether in UI or Backend on the Client).
Firefox does this by default. Background tabs do not autoplay, but the foreground tab does.
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
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And then there's Chrome, where you can start typing something in the URL bar, and it comes up with some results immediately, but in the milliseconds before you select a result it changes to something "better" so you go to the page instead. Infuriating.
I have pretty much the opposite anecdote: to me the Chrome URL bar is a magic component that finds any of the tickets I've lately worked on (from three different ticketing systems) with typing a few words/characters, knows that "n" is HN etc, "g" takes me to gmail.com etc. And all without any effort to manually teach it. Google Spreadsheets is where it often fails to work perfectly - hard to get it to take me to the…
Honestly, this has been the most annoying part of agency work for me. Every three months I work in a different github repo, so I constantly need to forcefully make it relearn what gi+down-arrow means
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
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Reminds me of fuzzy matching systems like Alfred that will try to learn which key combos you use to launch each app instead of trying to offer you predictability. But "fi " never launches Firefox anymore because of that one time you accidentally launched Finder instead. And since you keep accidentally launching Finder that way, it never learns that you want Firefox. So you try "f " but you accidentally launch Flux. A…
Unfortunately, macOS does the exact same thing. I'm typing "ph" to "pho", and suddently it matches "photo booth" instead of "photoshop". Absolutely unpredictable...
Fucking photo booth. Perplexed me that the system always things I want that over Photoshop or Photos.
This is the part where Apple apologists get the whole “Siri/Spotlight is bad because they do everything locally and they respect your privacy” thing wrong. Nothing about this problem needs to be done “in the cloud” - their local algos need work.
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
#127> As you browse the web, that list changes as Chrome learns and enables autoplay on sites where you play media with sound during most of your visits, and disables it on sites where you don’t. This way, Chrome gives you a personalized, predictable browsing experience. Predictable in a user application is the same result from the same action every time. UX changing based on opaque logic and heuristics is anything but p…
yeah, this seems like such an intense thing to do My bet is that they did this to not break Youtube. I mean it makes sense (you don't want video sites to not work) but it's also such a hacky sort of thing I don't get why they couldn't make this a permission thing like a mic. Ask the website to allow autoplay.
> My bet is that they did this to not break Youtube.
Which is fine to me. If I go to a website specifically for videos, I want it to autoplay, having to press play is a pointless action.
If I go to a website to read articles, I do not want autoplay, and I definitely don't want the video to even follow me around as a tiny minimized window when I scroll down and yes I will close the tab or press back pretty quick if that happens (as I come to the realization the effort to read this article is not worth the gain and realize that I probably was procrastinating anyway to end up on that article in the first place so should do something more productive). If it's interesting enough I will play the video myself, preferably with full control of its time slider myself and preferably without it auto-starting an unrelated different video after this one was done.
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
#128Maybe I am not the target group but I can not think of a single website with autoplay video w sound. What am I missing?
More news websites autoplay videos than I'd like to see.
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I tried using Firefox too on one of the sites, it didn't go well. No content, enabled JS, a brief menu with some sound effects popped up, then the whole page changed into an invalid HTTPS cert page as if I triggered a redirect or a script tried to load a resource or something else, apparently they're trying to use a github-domain-only cert and I'd have to add an exception. I left at that point. The artist reacti…
The artist in question has been pioneering online interactive experiences for years, and through his work (and possibly directly) helped shape the APIs and prompt browser adoption of new standards used. If you get a "use chrome" message, it's most likely not because the artist is evil, but rather that the experience used tech only available in chrome at the time the work was done. As an artist, the whole point is to…
Who in this thread has said anything about being evil?
Art needs maintenance just like everything else if you want it experienced beyond the time of its initial debut. Depending on the art, sometimes more, sometimes less. Not really a 9-5 thing unless maintaining others' art is your full time job.
This particular case is more akin to a game engine update changing some APIs, or perhaps akin to converting some archaic RealMedia material to modern formats. The art in question having software as medium matters a lot.
Re: New autoplay policy in Chrome
#130Maybe I am not the target group but I can not think of a single website with autoplay video w sound. What am I missing?
try searching for football (soccer) articles