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Walmart Beats Amazon in $15B Flipkart Battle

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show me one good thing that came from Walmart Labs.

Here's two: hapiJS and lacinia

For those wondering what these projects are, here are the direct URLs to their project pages:

- https://hapijs.com/

- http://lacinia.readthedocs.io/

Here are a couple of other interesting Walmart Labs projects I came across:

- https://www.electrode.io/

- https://github.com/walmartlabs/thorax

- http://oneops.com/

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show me one good thing that came from Walmart Labs.

Their GitHub page is also worth looking at: https://github.com/walmartlabs How many nice things have Amazon open sourced?

https://github.com/awslabs https://github.com/amzn

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I'm going to assume you aren't in the US because that simply isn't true here. Amazon is quite often not the lowest price. And, while they do still seem to be quite liberal with "send it back and we'll refund plus ", that doesn't matter if you can't get a genuine product because of all the counterfeits.

The only place on the internet I read about Amazon's supposed counterfeit problem is on HackerNews. I buy everything on Amazon, and I've never had this problem. Do you have any data to back up this claim?

Well, “I’ve never had this problem” doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

From a quick search (says “Apple Computer”, but tell me if that’s really made by Apple or not): https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0787CFNRQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=...

Re: Walmart Beats Amazon in $15B Flipkart Battle

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The title says Walmart beats Amazon in a battle. Then in the article it says: "Flipkart’s board ultimately decided a deal with Walmart is more likely to win regulatory approval because Amazon is the No. 2 e-commerce operator in India behind Flipkart and its primary competitor. Amazon is out of the running unless Walmart hits unforeseen trouble." Doesn't sound like a battle to me.

I think it was a battle in the sense of "Amazon made Walmart pay a shitload and the Flipkart founders wanted the safest possible route to close because holy shit dat money"

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Flipkart is losing to Amazon.in right now. I think that Softbank is smartly offloading a possible loser to Walmart/Google here at close to peak valuation. Maybe Google/Walmart can turn it around though. https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/flipkart.com https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/amazon.in

Well, this does not give the correct picture on the ground. Flipkart is bigger than amazon here. They have fashion portal called https://myntra.com and new fintech play called PhonePe. They are biggest player in fashion and white goods including smartphones. And smartphones are huge in India. A big percentage (I don't know the split) of smartphones sold in India gets sold online and majority (50+%) on Flipkart. https…

There is Amazon Pay too.

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I agree with amazon killing it. I used to shop both on flipkart and amazon. Now I just shop on Amazon. At some point I just stopped checking flipkart.

Same here. I think the reason was the amazing customer service at Amazon, and mostly the effective price on Amazon was always lower.

I'm so jealous. In Canada, Amazon is pretty pathetic.

So many things are out of stock, or not available for purchase.

The few things that are available for purchase are sometimes only offered by third-parties, who jack up the price by an exorbitant amount.

Re: Walmart Beats Amazon in $15B Flipkart Battle

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Here is an avid Indian online buyer's point of view on this:

Flipkart was the favorite child of online commerce and had dominated the space in India in the first 5/6 years. I have been an active customer. They did bring on large deals, like Motorola Moto G and Xiaomi Mi phones launching exclusively in India through them.

But as with our modern connected world, competition is global. Amazon is a huge brand. Even in India the software developer world literally bets on AWS. Yes brand presence is a thing in marketing/sales psychology. Amazon started offerening faster deliveries and that I what, I think I remember, made me to switch initially.

Early days of Amazon in India were fairly low profile. The product catalog was poor. But if you keep a tab on global brands, you know Amazon is pretty much a predator in supply chain management. So they slowly built up their infrastructure. I still remember having debates a few years ago about which e-commerce player delivers to more PIN codes in India. Flipkart was still a winner a few years back, but that is now history.

I think Flipkart lost focus somewhere, got busy with I do not know what. Their deliveries did not get better. Amazon is a 900 pound Gorilla and very silently played their cards, got customer attention and sales. I easily remember how many Flipkart delivery boxes I used to see on the roads daily, which are now more in the Amazon brand these days.

Oh and one other thing: English is very common in India, at least in the urban consumer - so that makes us very aware of the US companies like Amazon (even Walmart) and when they enter India we do want to give them a try.

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This deal is the result of commonly shared desperation. Both companies in the news Flipkart and Walmart are desperate to fight back Amazon's increasing market leadership and their spread. Amazon is growing crazy in India, literally. But there's more to this. It's actually Walmart who is pushing this deal aggressively as they see it as a chance to tap into the increasingly growing Indian market. In past few years, Wal…

> This deal is the result of commonly shared desperation. I get that Walmart is desperate to get into Indian market, but what's the issue with Flipkart. Even though they aren't doing as well as compared to Amazon, from the founder's pov, why would he care if the company goes to Walmart or amazon? After all, he gets the money, and he gets to make a exit(from what I've heard)

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Of course an Indian startup can't compete with Amazon and Walmart! But they can easily ban foreign companies and let it grow organically in the country, they might get it 5 years later but they are not bankrupting all of their local business with no upside for the economy!

If they had to go down this path, they should have done it years ago. I don't know enough about economics to comment whether that have been good or bad though. Before opening up in 90s, Indian economy was closed as well but that didn't necessarily led to Indian enterprises in those spaces being very competitive once they lost all those protections.

Before 90s with all those protections, Indian companies had become sloths. The economy was in bad shape and the govt had no option but to open up for foreign investors/companies.

If anything, foreign investment/companies have brought better days for Indian customers, even though it means more money draining out to US.

Those industries that are still protected(eg. There are no foreign universities) are still in bad shape.

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It would take Googlmart 5+ years to play catch up if not longer. Google's too disorganized and they don't have any supply chain tech built up. Amazon has years of supply chain infrastructure (both software, physical systems and organization) including supply/demand forecasting models and warehouse operational investment (Kiva systems, etc...). The only differentiation that Google adds to Walmart is: - Top-talent engi…

In Bangalore, companies like Google, Amazon, Walmart Labs, Flipkart, Directi, and LinkedIn all attract the same talent pool. All of these companies can pay either as much as Google or more than Google to attract the topmost talent pool. In fact, many of the engineers in these companies frequently hop from one company to another between these. Of these, Amazon has the highest attrition rate due to stressful working co…

FYI: http://oneops.com is the tech stack used for "Application Lifecycle Management of Cloud Based Workloads" at Walmart / Sam's Club / Etc. It was aquired in 2013 but remains open source (not sure who else is using it though). At a high level it is built around Chef solo, and allows you to define application "assemblies" that can then be deployed to various clouds (on prem or public PaaS). Being cloud agnostic means it can shift workloads between different cloud providers with only minor tweaks to the applications.

It works well for a large company with many moving parts and a need for Enterprise wide policies/quotas/etc, but has some rough edges and leaky abstractions. Kubernetes is a more mature and widely used system that has many of the same features, just based around containers instead of VMs.

Disclosure: I work for Walmart Labs on our CDN / Edge Platform team.

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