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How Strenuous Exercise Affects Our Immune System

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Re: How Strenuous Exercise Affects Our Immune System

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Post by mkirklions »

InitialLastName wrote: post #112
jumpmancw wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's actually very bad advice, do not do this. All of the literature will plainly tell you this is a bad idea.

Pfft what could those scientists/doctors/trainers/experienced athletes possibly know that some dude on the internet can't anecdote his way into correctness? /s

Engineer/trainer/experienced athlete here

I thought using the potential energy equation gave me a little credentials.

I also wrote a book about this topic. But I didnt include it in the comment.

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Post by mkirklions »

jvagner wrote: post #61
bpizzi wrote: post #42

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Especially with deadlift, back injuries are no fun at all.

Indeed. Working up to a deadlift max doesn't take a lot of time, or a ton of sets. Like, 4-6 sets of 3-4 reps. Longevity and injury-prevention is key to long-term gym vitality... but people don't usually appreciate this until they injure themselves somehow.

Seconding this.

1 heavy deadlift set usually means 15 minutes of warmups.

Re: How Strenuous Exercise Affects Our Immune System

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Post by paulcole »

evo_9 wrote: post #119
paulcole wrote: post #94

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Effective at what?

Effective at maintaining aerobic conditioning. I wanted to get away from having to run 40 minutes 3 times a week. Doing sprints for 2-4 minutes 3 times a week is essentially the same. Also has the added benefit over my old 40 minute jog routine of increasing my quickness. I play hockey so it was noticeable how much quicker my first 3 strides have become the past 2 years. Pretty good read regarding all this: http://ww…

Yeah it's not surprising that slow speed jogging wouldn't improve quickness. Fast twitch vs. slow twitch and all.

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Post by mkirklions »

danmg wrote: post #29
gthtjtkt wrote: post #22

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Crazy, guaranteed. People always overstate their level of fitness by several orders of magnitude on anonymous internet forums.

A 450lb deadlift is not crazy.

Yeah 450lb deadlift isnt even respectable among lifters.

450 is almost the expectation for anyone casually lifting for a few years.

Re: How Strenuous Exercise Affects Our Immune System

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Post by mkirklions »

send_computers wrote: post #6
mkirklions wrote: post #5

This article doesnt make mention of my workout where I lift something heavy 1 time. I had the idea that I wanted to reduce time in the gym, so I used the potential energy equation PE= M g h I'm not getting any taller, so the only thing I could change was either the reps or mass of weight moved. I made it my goal to lift heavy weights so I'd only need to deadlift 1 time and be able to pig out. TBH, it works, I lose 1…

Hmmm can't tell if serious or crazy

Serious but probably crazy too. I use engineering everywhere in my life, food, water bottle size, decision making, caffeine usage...

I didnt mention that I have to warm up, but the point of the workout is to complete a heavy set.

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Post by cpsempek »

danmg wrote: post #29
gthtjtkt wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy, guaranteed. People always overstate their level of fitness by several orders of magnitude on anonymous internet forums.

A 450lb deadlift is not crazy.

This depends on the lifter's weight (which is why there are weight classes in power and oly lifting competitions).

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Post by neonate »

awakeasleep wrote: post #49
nimbius wrote: post #40

As a machinist and building maintenance engineer, I can almost guarantee any ill feeling you're experiencing after a trip to your local gym is due to the air quality. Gyms are rarely purpose built facilities. Rather, theyre rented and renovated spaces. In turn, airflow in the structure is planned for light industrial or office space. Almost no thought goes into the fact that gyms are sometimes hundreds of occupants m…

You’re not even mentioning CO2 concentration. I work in a large, open office with seemingly sufficient airflow, but after buying a CO2 detector on a whim I’ve seen that it frequently reaches 1200ppm, and you actually can tell that you feel like crap when that happens. I can’t imagine if the whole office was filled with people exercising.

Sorry for being off topic but I want to get one of these. Which one should I get?

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Post by matwood »

mkirklions wrote: post #5

This article doesnt make mention of my workout where I lift something heavy 1 time. I had the idea that I wanted to reduce time in the gym, so I used the potential energy equation PE= M g h I'm not getting any taller, so the only thing I could change was either the reps or mass of weight moved. I made it my goal to lift heavy weights so I'd only need to deadlift 1 time and be able to pig out. TBH, it works, I lose 1…

I used to do heavy dead lift singles (405-500+) as part of my power lifting routine. The warmup alone would crush many people, so I wouldn't exactly say you were not doing anything strenuous.

If you're going in cold right to 450+, my back is scared for you.

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Post by danmg »

WoodenChair wrote: post #103
sternocleidom wrote: post #57

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I have a PhD from a top institution, so I'm all for science. But the science on this matter is misleading to people who aren't experts in the field, so I don't blame you for calling me out. Let me try to explain why there is no contradiction, and why the science here can't be relied upon across the board. First, my anecdata pertain to athletes who are competitive on a national or regional level - Olympic Trials quali…

> I have a PhD from a top institution I'm sorry but any comment that starts out "I have a PhD from a top institution" reeks of Appeal to Authority: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority Then you appeal to science without actually citing any science, but yet more anecdotal data and thoughts from your own mind. Your arguments are just not very strong because they're all coming from your own experience a…

His argument is that it's inherently hard to do exercise science research because of selection biases and sample sizes. This is a fairly reasonable statement.

The problem is confounded because of conflicts of interest. Either the investigators are being remunerated by a commercial interest or the investigators are hoping to establish a commercial entity.

It's not uncommon for a study to come out with interesting results and conclusion only to be found to be completely unreproducible. It takes a while for this to happen, and even then, people are confused over who is right.

Also, linking to the wiki page for a logical fallacy is a very passive aggressive swipe and low quality.

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Post by [deleted] »

mrfusion wrote: post #62
awakeasleep wrote: post #49

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You’re not even mentioning CO2 concentration. I work in a large, open office with seemingly sufficient airflow, but after buying a CO2 detector on a whim I’ve seen that it frequently reaches 1200ppm, and you actually can tell that you feel like crap when that happens. I can’t imagine if the whole office was filled with people exercising.

What does it feel like as it starts getting higher?

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