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Pinebook: An Affordable 64-bit ARM based Open Source Notebook

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That’s why it will cost in EU closer to 300$ than original 100$.

Which would tell you a lot about the expected failure rate.

It’s not about failure rate alone. As a seller in EU you are liable for the product for 2 years. Plus WEEE (recycling), waste management, user manuals in all European languages. And you also want to have some profit at the end.

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Why are people still putting their computers inside keyboards !? Put the SoC behind the screen !!!

That makes the screen thicker, and heavier, therefore more likely to tip the whole thing over. Why do you want it behind the screen? Other poster mentioned the thermal issues. It's probably not great for EMC either.

I have an HP Pavilion convertable, the keyboard is detachable and it can be used as a tablet, I don't have a problem with it tipping over.

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For $100 I think the expectation is set that there will be some rough edges. At that price point, I'd consider picking one up as a toy… even if it is giving me flashbacks of the netbook era.

I still work with my eight year old notebook and its glorious Intel Atom and 1GB of RAM... It was gifted to me during my second year of college and now that I'm on my PhD I still have a use for it. The original Windows distribution lasted around one month. Since then it's been running a number of lightweight distributions, currently Lubuntu. It works noticeably better than laptops running Windows with twice the memor…

When my thinkpad x201 broke down, I lived with an atom 1.6 Ghz eeePC (1000HE).

It was certainly doable and tweaking the laptop to run on limited resources was fun.

My only real issue was that I couldn't browse with javascript, because the cpu load was crushing the netbook.

Other than that a recent OpenBSD installation used only 128MiB of RAM, with ram usage occasionaly rising to around 280 MiB when I opened firefox.

I still use the netbook as my primary mobile machine. But I think getting a second hand thinkpad again would be a reasonable thing to do. Although the netbook is perfectly usable, it is really heavy compared to today's standards. That is the only complaint I have for my machine.

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I think a cloned, new battery might even be better in this particular case. An original battery that's been sitting on a shelf for 10 years is e-waste. There are several articles online about how hard it is to store Li-Ion batteries, eg: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_store_batt...

A new part made by the original vendor is infinitely preferable to an off-brand clone. There have been too many stories of “bargain” LiOns catching fire!

I think I lost my x201 due to a Chinese battery. After I used the replacement battery I think a Mosfet transistor burned out inside. The laptop wouldn't turn on, and if turned on it closed in matter of seconds.

Although the actual cause might be different (I'm no expert) I've become cautious of super cheap Chinese 9-cell batteries.

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I'm also working on an ARM notebook in the spirit of Novena called Reform: http://mntmn.com/reform/ This version is 32-bit, but it has 4 cores @ 1.2GHz and 4GB of RAM. Also, it is actually open source, meaning that all the electronic design files (made in KiCAD) are available on GitHub and as soon as we have decided on the correct formats the same will be true for the mechanical/case parts, so you will be even able t…

im a huge fan of your work. may i ask if a IMX8M version will be available in the future ?

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I think a cloned, new battery might even be better in this particular case. An original battery that's been sitting on a shelf for 10 years is e-waste. There are several articles online about how hard it is to store Li-Ion batteries, eg: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_store_batt...

A new part made by the original vendor is infinitely preferable to an off-brand clone. There have been too many stories of “bargain” LiOns catching fire!

Oh absolutely. It's a shame there's not a reputable company making replacement compatible batteries for old laptops and phones. I guess the original companies have design patents to try to stop this.

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I have this laptop. The beauty of it is that it is unashamedly bad. It is the humblest of laptops. The body is a direct copy of the 13" MacBook Air. As a computer, it is at least as usable as a Raspberry Pi. The teardown photos are hilarious because the motherboard only takes up about 1/6 the internal space. The rest is empty. https://hackaday.com/2017/04/28/hands-on-with-the-pinebook/ It comes with Ubuntu 16.04, but…

What is the actual battery life? If it has a decent one (atleast 12 hours) I could use it as a travel notebook instead of my hefty thinkpad.

A quad core A53 consumes around 2W when idle. The battery is 37Wh, so I don't think it can make 12 hours (including screen consumption).

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What could you feasibly use this for? The 1.2GHz CPU seems like it would put a bit of a damper on almost anything besides answering email and basic word processing.

The fact that it's only 1.2GHz is irrelevant. The important aspect is that it's an A53 core. These cores are incredibly slow. Each A53 core has geekbench score of roughly 300. Compare this to an A72 core which has a score of roughly 1500. Intel gets anywhere from 2000 to 6000 per core.

A72 cores are moderately slower than intel. A53 cores are excessively slower than either A72 and intel.

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