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Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by josefresco »

teach wrote: post #112
josefresco wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I never saw the setting to disable the app prompt. Reddit tracks every single action on their site (no duh) and I don't feel like being monitored when I'm on the toilet looking for LULZ

For the record, I'm sure they track you just as much even if you've never created an account.

I smiled when writing that, expecting this very response ;) - I'll just stay away completely as per my parent comment edit.

The kicker is that Reddit's "activity feed" in the right hand sidebar is what revealed, or reminded me of this behavior. Without it, I probably would have continued to ignore the obvious / bury my head in the sand. Thanks Reddit!

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by hiccuphippo »

vesinisa wrote: post #4

Sadly, the reddit website has become a travesty - especially on mobile. A huge "DOWNLOAD THE REDDIT APP" banner obscures literally 30% of the page. There is a teeny-tiny "view on mobille site" link in small, low-contrast text that can be used to dismiss the annoying banner. Due to its size and user-hostile design, the Reddit banner is even worse than most news sites that try to push their newsletter/app/subscription…

I use one of the third party apps. I tried the official app but it forces you to open external links in their embedded chrome/webview. The third party simply opens them in my browser.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by anc84 »

michel__ wrote: post #116
baby wrote: post #63

A day before the re-design announcement I was explaining to a friend why Digg died and why Reddit would never dare re-designing their page. Oh boy was I wrong.

You make it sound like this came out of nowhere. Reddit has been letting people beta test this for months.

And I told them it is terrible and stopped beta testing within minutes.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by TeMPOraL »

InternetOfStuff wrote: post #65
dkns wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but I don't want to use another app for that. I already have app for browsing Reddit - it's called web browser and I'd like to keep using it rather than downloading yet another app that does basically the same.

I get your point, but "Reddit is Fun" is really good. It's the opposite of the stupid mobile apps which are inferior to the website proper. I might even prefer it to the desktop site (not to speak of the mobile site).

Seconding Reddit is Fun - it has a very decent UX (about the only thing I'd love to see improved is the comment box, especially around quoting stuff). It's lean, bullshit-free, actively developed and offers all the features you'd have on the website (at least all that I know of).

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by eitland »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #113
Karunamon wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of snark I don't have a clear way around, your definition of "good engineering" appears to be the same one that thinks a modern toilet is no better than a hole in the ground. Nobody that pays for developer time in 2018 is going to optimize their site for people that go out of their way to willfully turn off part of the stack. It's not gonna happen. Effort for no reward. The protocol you describe, just a b…

I turn off a part of the stack (or rather, run it on a whitelist), because people are using wrong parts of the stack for wrong things. If you use the right parts of the stack for the right things, the result is a lean, accessible and interoperable piece of software. That's what the Internet was designed for. Alas, few people care, and in particular, interoperability is actively being opposed. RE the toilet example, c…

> more like refusing to build toilets in apartments and instead building them into car seats, because it's 2018, everyone has a car and a driver's license

Or maybe even making all kinds of interactive, surprising and unhygienic features on the toilet?

Some things should be simple and just work. They should work in a predictable manner and in a way that minimises risk for the users.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by eadmund »

nothis wrote: post #106
superkuh wrote: post #70

I started using reddit in 2008. Although I doubt it was intentional reddit was a refuge from the "Best viewed with Javascript" modern web for many years. It worked just fine to browse and read with no JS enabled and was very snappy and low resource usage that way. Sure, you had to toggle JS back on to vote or post but that was easy enough. I left just before they pushed out the redesign due their increased censorship…

I'm with you on the JS stuff, the redesign screams "I want to be an app!" so desperately, I'm seriously considering leaving after a good 8 years on the site as well. Everything has that Javascript-delay on it, like it takes 0.5 seconds to click anything, scroll anything, etc. I gotta say though: >increased censorship That's ridiculous. They're "censoring" all kinds of bottom-of-the-barrel racist and disturbing shit w…

> That's ridiculous. They're "censoring" all kinds of bottom-of-the-barrel racist and disturbing shit

They've also banned people legally arranging sales of alcohol, tobacco & firearms.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by TeMPOraL »

dgreensp wrote: post #107

From reading Reddit threads about the redesign: pretty much everyone hates it, especially Reddit’s most passionate users, who have been very articulate, consistent, and aligned about exactly what they don’t like, and Reddit just keeps brushing them off and dismissing their point of view. Maybe the purpose of the redesign is something like monetization? Or maybe they are just out of touch and by the time they really u…

Of course it's about monetization. There's a difference between how Reddit-the-company (and its investors) view the site, and how its users do.

It's like with cafés - visitors likes them quiet, and would very much enjoy having an electrical outlet near the table (to charge up phone) and even free Wi-Fi. But cafés aren't in business of making peoples' life better and more enjoyable, they're in business of selling coffee - so they'll actively remove electrical outlets, remove their Wi-Fi and make the place noiser, to increase turnover.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by nimbix »

vesinisa wrote: post #4

Sadly, the reddit website has become a travesty - especially on mobile. A huge "DOWNLOAD THE REDDIT APP" banner obscures literally 30% of the page. There is a teeny-tiny "view on mobille site" link in small, low-contrast text that can be used to dismiss the annoying banner. Due to its size and user-hostile design, the Reddit banner is even worse than most news sites that try to push their newsletter/app/subscription…

It's because they want your device's advertiser ID so they can associate it with your interests based on subreddits you visit. There's gold in them ad targeting data hills.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by MisterTea »

soundwave106 wrote: post #105
MisterTea wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's okay. You, like me, are starting to realize that our way of computing is becoming obsolete. How many kids are using keyboard and mouse vs touch screens? They grow up thinking "this is how you use a computer". To them the mouse/keyboard ruins the whole touch(mobile) experience. One day we'll be the old men yelling at internet clouds while sitting behind an old PC or some kind of open source terminal running an op…

Obsolete is a bit of an exaggeration. As far as I know, almost all programming (including for mobile devices) is still done with a keyboard and a mouse, and I honestly don't see this changing anytime soon (the only way I personally can see changing this is if voice recognition combined with enough AI to make dictating instructions to a computer a reality... or if a visual programming environment actually succeeds, de…

> Obsolete is a bit of an exaggeration. As far as I know, almost all programming (including for mobile devices) is still done with a keyboard and a mouse, and I honestly don't see this changing anytime soon...

How many programmers and developers are there vs consumers? The traditional keyboard and mouse interface is dying in consumer space. Sure it will live on in business and content creation, but the majority of development going forward is pushing people onto mobile reinforcing it as the standard for interfacing to a computer.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Post by justherefortart »

superkuh wrote: post #70

I started using reddit in 2008. Although I doubt it was intentional reddit was a refuge from the "Best viewed with Javascript" modern web for many years. It worked just fine to browse and read with no JS enabled and was very snappy and low resource usage that way. Sure, you had to toggle JS back on to vote or post but that was easy enough. I left just before they pushed out the redesign due their increased censorship…

Bro, do you even have flair?

Reddit started sucking the larger it got. It was decent from 2005-2010, been a shitfest since and increasingly getting worse.

The early flame wars were fun though when they first got comments working.

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