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In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by peacetreefrog »

smokeyj wrote: post #113
dang wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't post like this - it's just https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect in action. I don't mean to pick on you personally; there are many such perceptions and they all disagree, just like people's underlying views disagree. Since they don't add information, such comments are off topic.

> Since they don't add information, such comments are off topic. I agree, my bad. But I have noticed a formulaic rebuttal regarding the actions of Zuck. If you look at previous FB related posts the popular comments consistently suggest Zuck was "young and naive" - to the point of sounding like a PR piece. I don't have evidence but maybe you have IP logs. I'd be willing to bet there's something very interesting in the…

Ok, what would you like to bet?

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by heedlessly3 »

maxxxxx wrote: post #40
hcnews wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good for him that he isn't black in today's America.

This week there was an event at the UFC where on of their biggest fighters (Conor McGregor) and a dozen or so of his associates attacked a bus, smashed windows and injured several people in the bus who then couldn't fight at the event. He posted 50k bail and is now on the way home to Ireland. When I saw this I thought to myself if some poor black teenagers had done exactly the same thing they would be in jail for the…

Jon Jones hit a pregnant woman with his car and got away with it.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by heedlessly3 »

tudorconstantin wrote: post #28

What I don't understand is how the important leaders and influencers of the world, like Obama, or Bill Gates, or others, are not ashamed to show themselves near Zuckerberg. He started the whole Facebook with a theft from the Winklevoss brothers. That whole business is the fruit of theft. Yeah, he was young and stupid, but how many of you even considered doing such a thing to your employer? Yeah, he built a huge busin…

In 2008 and 2012, Facebook did help Obama get elected. Although its role back then wasn't as big as 2016, it still helped

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by loup-vaillant »

mercer wrote: post #120
loup-vaillant wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read more charitably, will you? Fame doesn't affect all accusations the same way. I believe the probability of false accusations raise faster with fame than the probability of true accusation (which is mostly dependent on actual guilt). There's even the possibility that the probability of true accusations lowers as fame raises, leaving more room for the false ones.

While I don't necessarily disagree, I do wonder if this is actually true. In my experience lots of people have a weird tendency to bend over backwards to defend the famous (with Chris Brown, Jimmy Saville, and various Hollywood stars as particularly terrible examples). Perhaps Donald Trump too.

Fame probably attracts detraction and defence.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by crescentfresh »

acct1771 wrote: post #71
crescentfresh wrote: post #46

Unrelated, but this reminded me of my very first real, salary developer job where I added logging to the web application. I remember logging failed password attempts specifically; I didn't give a second thought to simply logging the values of all form fields, seemed easiest at the time in case the developer changed the names of the fields. It wasn't until a review by one of the senior devs that saw passwords in the l…

Out of curiosity, did you look at the end-result log files yourself before the review?

I did! I however did NOT fail to enter my credentials correctly locally, and the rest of the logs were filled with random forms submitted during testing.

"Yep, all looks good on my machine!".

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by sangnoir »

JackCh wrote: post #63
sangnoir wrote: post #57

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> The friend/accomplice did not kill anybody, but was killed by police in a shootout; the defendant was charged with murder for this death. What the actual fuck? Then again, I can't say I'm suprised that it's in Alabama.

Taking cheap-shots at southern states with disreputable histories is easy, but the vast majority of states (46 out of 50, as of 2008) in America have a Felony Murder rule. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/felony_murder_doctrine

Here's an image showing lynchings (what you call "disreputable histories"): Alabama earned it's disrepute, which is why I wasn't surprised.

I am not taking a cheap shot, unless you can prove to me that these "histories" are firmly in the past for Alabama, and that the attitudes have not lingered and that lady Justice is now color-blind in Alabama courts.

Edit: I've just realized your post is what-aboutism, I regret taking the bait.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by mygo »

loup-vaillant wrote: post #117
mygo wrote: post #109

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your circular logic translates to “the fact that these allegations even bothered to come out is evidence that they may be false”

Read more charitably, will you? Fame doesn't affect all accusations the same way. I believe the probability of false accusations raise faster with fame than the probability of true accusation (which is mostly dependent on actual guilt). There's even the possibility that the probability of true accusations lowers as fame raises, leaving more room for the false ones.

I believe the probability of people coming to your defense raises faster with fame.

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by sangnoir »

sangnoir wrote: post #126
JackCh wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking cheap-shots at southern states with disreputable histories is easy, but the vast majority of states (46 out of 50, as of 2008) in America have a Felony Murder rule. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/felony_murder_doctrine

Here's an image showing lynchings (what you call "disreputable histories"): Alabama earned it's disrepute, which is why I wasn't surprised. I am not taking a cheap shot, unless you can prove to me that these "histories" are firmly in the past for Alabama, and that the attitudes have not lingered and that lady Justice is now color-blind in Alabama courts. Edit: I've just realized your post is what-aboutism, I regret t…

Replying to myself because I can no longer edit my post to include the image[1]. The image comes from a fortuitously timed "60 Minutes" episode[2] that discusses a lynching memorial that's opening soon. In Alabama.

1. https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/04/08/7bd07dde-...

2. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-memorial-to-victims-...

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by loup-vaillant »

mygo wrote: post #127
loup-vaillant wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read more charitably, will you? Fame doesn't affect all accusations the same way. I believe the probability of false accusations raise faster with fame than the probability of true accusation (which is mostly dependent on actual guilt). There's even the possibility that the probability of true accusations lowers as fame raises, leaving more room for the false ones.

I believe the probability of people coming to your defense raises faster with fame.

Possibly. But I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about the probabilities of accusations (true and false, respectively).

Re: In 2004, Zuckerberg Broke Into a Facebook User's Private Email Account (2010)

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Post by therealdrag0 »

zeth___ wrote: post #88
gabept wrote: post #74

I'm not in defense of Zuckerberg, but I have seen and fortunately stopped some young entrepreneurs doing atrociously invasive things in order to better understand and expand their product. I don't think this is necessarily a case of wickedness, but instead lack of knowledge and immaturity when the event happened.

Going into someone else's email to read what they have to say about you is something that even a three year old knows is wrong. If you have dealings with people like that and you're helping them don't be surprised when you find out they have used their money to open a child rape hotel somewhere in the developing world.

That's an absurd comparison/slippery-slope.
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