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Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by dogma1138 »

bluecat22 wrote: post #67
dogma1138 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a reason to not license it under a dual license? Have the source code open with a non commercial license and also distribute the binaries under a commercial license. I’m not sure that it will have a significant impact on the revenue since most people would likely opt out and purchase the binary rather than building it on their own.

Most people won't but somebody else will make the builds and then offer those builds. Example: CentOS

Cant you have a license that forbids distributing binaries?

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Post by v_lisivka »

pashky wrote: post #55
rjzzleep wrote: post #53

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FAR is fascinating. It may look like a Norton Commander, but it's fully integrated in Windows and the extension system goes beyond most Norton Commander clones. It may be a small thing since the API in windows is fairly simple, but what got me is the fact that you double click an item and you get a copy of windows explorers right click + FAR extensions. But yes, I agree I've asked myself the same question.

Would you imagine that instead of browsing records in a shop or even listening to radio all you and your friends have is the same mixtape copied over and over again? Sounds weird, but that's how software distributed from 80s well into mid-00s in Russia. You didn't get particular products, you got a disk with "all the good bits" according to someone. Somehow Norton Commander ended up in the list at some point, so it i…

VC was too lightweight. Dos Navigator, written in Turbo Vision by developers from Moldova, was much better and replaced Norton Commander very quickly.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by badsectoracula »

dchest wrote: post #90
userbinator wrote: post #47

Perhaps this is a bit off-topic, but I correctly guessed from the domain name and later, the contents of the page, that [1] the author is Russian, and [2] the file manager resembles the layout of FAR, another file manager of Russian origin and seemingly very popular among them. In short, what is it with Russians and this type of file manager? It's a very curious association.

Norton Commander (and its clones, such as Volkov Commander, DOS Navigator) was very popular in ex-USSR — almost every computer running DOS (the majority of PCs in ex-USSR back then) had nc running as the main user interface to the PC, and was introduced in most computer education courses in the 90's.

I always found it amusing that in Chasm: The Rift (a midlate-90s FPS for DOS made by Action Forms, a Ukrainian game developer), the computer monitors had Norton Commander running:

https://i.imgur.com/63dPueK.png

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by ReverseCold »

azinman2 wrote: post #72
ReverseCold wrote: post #28

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Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm). Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

Question is “good for what?” It simply doesn’t have the polish, or flexibility that I’d need to effectively stay on it for long. I always end up spending longggg times customizing things only to feel little integration, little support, and a lack of decent third party software. Sketch is Mac only. Spotify barely has a Linux client. Certainly no photoshop, medocire native email clients, zero IM that integrate with any…

> Sketch

> Photoshop

Sounds like you're doing graphic design. Unless you're doing animation (in which case https://krita.org/en/ is much better than any Adobe thing I've used) you're definitely better off with a Mac.

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Post by ezekg »

yanex wrote: post #41
dogma1138 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a reason to not license it under a dual license? Have the source code open with a non commercial license and also distribute the binaries under a commercial license. I’m not sure that it will have a significant impact on the revenue since most people would likely opt out and purchase the binary rather than building it on their own.

According to what I know, in case of desktop applications, the revenue drops almost to zero, unless you have a Free and Pro versions. "Free edition" then lacks almost all features that make the product competitive, and it's not really good. It's reasonable, though, if your potential user base is totally different. For example, IntelliJ IDEA has a Community edition that lacks enterprise frameworks support, but that's…

Don’t listen to them. The HN crowd wants everything to be open-source, but likely wouldn’t want to pay for anything even if it was dual licensed. This seems to be a great product, and you deserve to charge for it and keep it closed source.

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Post by mrgordon »

michaelmrose wrote: post #91
mrgordon wrote: post #86

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I don’t disagree with your point but it only addresses part of my problem. For one thing, the Linux UIs like GNOME and KDE are terrible. They do the job for some people but I would willingly pay more to use OS X without hesitation. I also have experienced many situations like the following, although typically not quite as extreme... A coworker decided to purchase a Lenovo with Linux as a developer at a company where…

If you define not working like OSX I guess its terrible seems pretty functional to me. Personally I prefer i3wm and keyboard driven workflow and find the way mac handles multi monitor loathsome. This doesn't mean that it is objectively bad it means I find it unsuitable as a matter of taste. The fact that he had hardware issues hardly means linux is terrible in fact its a fairly nonsensical way to qualify an entire OS…

Yes Mac multi-monitor support is a weakness.

As I said, the point wasn't that one person had hardware issues. Its that I constantly see people buy Linux laptops and have hardware/software issues as the two are quite related on Linux due to bad driver support and inconsistent hardware configurations. I relayed an anecdote that summarizes many of the problems I've seen. This one involved an extremely senior engineer with successful exits who was beside himself trying to make a brand new Linux laptop work.

Here is another anecdote, no hardware involved. Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade was busted and several friends couldn't boot at all after upgrading via the GUI option. Sure that could happen on a Mac but its way, way less common.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by SyneRyder »

grzm wrote: post #62

Looks interesting. I'd love to see more screen shots. Is there a gallery somewhere? I poked around the site a bit but didn't find one. Tthough perhaps I just missed it. Been known to happen.)

I agree, more screenshots would be great to get an understanding of the product before trying it. Though I really like the design of the website (and the current screenshot), it gives me a good feeling about the software.

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Post by mon1key »

vetinari wrote: post #105
bluecat22 wrote: post #70

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See that's why I see CentOS as not necessarily a very good thing. It dents into the idea of making money with open source product.

Though in case of CentOS it probably helps more than it hurts. For RHEL, the product being sold and bought is not the bits, but the support.

This won't work for consumer facing desktop apps though.

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Post by michaelmrose »

mrgordon wrote: post #126
michaelmrose wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you define not working like OSX I guess its terrible seems pretty functional to me. Personally I prefer i3wm and keyboard driven workflow and find the way mac handles multi monitor loathsome. This doesn't mean that it is objectively bad it means I find it unsuitable as a matter of taste. The fact that he had hardware issues hardly means linux is terrible in fact its a fairly nonsensical way to qualify an entire OS…

Yes Mac multi-monitor support is a weakness. As I said, the point wasn't that one person had hardware issues. Its that I constantly see people buy Linux laptops and have hardware/software issues as the two are quite related on Linux due to bad driver support and inconsistent hardware configurations. I relayed an anecdote that summarizes many of the problems I've seen. This one involved an extremely senior engineer wi…

Upgrading existing OS install to new versions is a known issue. On a non rolling release distro you are better off keeping /home separate and doing a fresh install for major releases.

This takes about 30 minutes every few years with Ubuntu lts for example. You don't lose or even have to move your files.

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Post by dctoedt »

jaclaz wrote: post #106

>Marta is a dual-pane file manager. Most of the time you work with two directory panes placed side-by-side. This allows you to do the basic file operations such as copying or moving files in a fast and efficient way, because you can see both source and target directories, and you can copy or move files directly, without copy-pasting it. Just in case, it could be categorized as a OFM (Orthodox File Manager): http://ww…

> What started it all is the Norton Commander for DOS.

I think even it was preceded by the (wonderful) PFM file manager, which has a modern-day descendant in the Linux world.

http://p-f-m.sourceforge.net/

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.archives.msdos....

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