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IBM Plex – A new typeface

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Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

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This is one of the most frustrating page navigation experiences I have had in long a while. I tend to scroll with pgup/pgdn or arrow keys (or more occasionally, space/shift+space) and when I got to the big "IBM" logo the page just kind of stopped. I thought that was all. It wasn't until I came to this thread I realized there was more, and I should look again, but even then it took me forever to: 1. Realize I needed t…

Very funny, I viewed the page on my iPhone and the experience was a joy. Perhaps they overfit the experience for mobile?

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

#122
post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sure looks like it was designed by committee. It is one of the ugliest typefaces I have ever seen and, having studied typography, I have seen some really shitty ones. What were they thinking with the f and r? This is Times New Roman all over again.

Huh? Times New Roman is at least acceptable; it's legible and was designed by a real type designer. Plex is a complete joke.

Times New Roman was designed to squeeze as much text on a page as possible, probably to make more room for ads.

Makes me wonder why it's not more popular today.

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

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From my experience dealing with IBM, I can only imagine this was the result of 5 different consulting teams, assisted by 3 different outsourced development groups, which was delayed numerous times, then Watson was added, and then a re-org caused by layoffs, which finally resulted in a website that couldn't scroll and caused the CPU of my high-end laptop to scream...

You missed the most important part; it was initiated by a team of lawyers who were tipped off by another team who noticed the Watson design team were using a typeface on public websites which they didn't have the copyright to, and certainly didn't have the license to redistribute. Almost 2 years later, Plex was born. (This is a true story, by the way.)

Thanks for that, I was wondering why they went to all the trouble of designing a new typeface.

The thing I haven't figured out yet is why they made it open source rather than keeping it exclusively for their own use.

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

#124

Lots of jank on an old Nexus 6P. Granted it's not buttery smooth anymore, but that was pretty crazy. Does it load jank free on anyone's mobile device? Curious to know if there are devices out there with no jank on this site.

My 6S was having a really hard time here, and this phone isn’t exactly a slouch!

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

#125
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Apple, Samsung, Netflix, now IBM... why does everyone need their own typeface? Is it to save on licensing fees? As a user, I don't really find these fonts very distinctive, so I don't associate them with their brands.

Especially with company with as many tentacles as IBM, having own typeface also helps ensure consistent design language across the company, both in terms of licensing (they can use it in any media/geography/field they need) and applicability (they can have all the variants etc needed). Of course cost is also a major aspect. Random article claims that "Until recently, it [IBM] was spending over a million dollars each…

I agree, they managed to capture some IBMness there. But if they were doing it to enhance their branding, why did they make it open source?

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

#127
post #10

Here's the download page if you want to avoid the horrific-to-navigate site: https://github.com/IBM/plex/releases/tag/v1.0.1

Or if you use arch linux you can get it here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ttf-ibm-plex-git/

(I have to change as now it downloads the whole repo as it used to be in a giant repo with no release.)

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

#129
I've tried Plex but keep going back to Monaco. Somehow, my eyes grow weary faster with Plex. This may just be a function of my age, so your mileage may vary, but here's a listing of things that I think make Plex tiresome for coding:

1. The lower-case ell ("l") and number one ("1") look so similar that I need almost to squint to see the difference, if I'm tired.

2. Plex seems to distinguish between letters by small "inside" features, as opposed to "edge" features. What I mean can be seen by contrasting "a" and "g" in Plex and Monaco.

I think it's this second thing that tires my eyes. While I admit that the letters are clearer in Plex than in Monaco (e.g. there's no mistaking "a" for "o" in Plex), I find that tired eyes can get enough information from the outside shape to distinguish the features, and there is a higher comfort level in viewing the characters, without the extra high-wavenumber twists and turns of the "pen".

Again, I think a lot of this may just be that I have old and never-especially-great eyes. But I thought I'd mention these things, in case younger folks find their eyes growing tired and are wondering why.

Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface

#130
That web slide show was overdone IMO, but I'm a sucker for a code coding font and gave it a spin. Fired up three identical terminals with the same text, colors, and sizes, with respectively SF Mono, Source Code Pro, and now IBM Plex Mono [1].

My conclusion:

OMG, what has the world come to. It's 2018 and I have more great fonts at my disposal than I know to choose from. I could honestly live with any of them, but I'll stay Plex for a bit, if just for the beautiful 7.

[1] I do have other fine choices, like Inconsolata, Droid Mono, etc, but not enough time to try everything.

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