This is one of the most frustrating page navigation experiences I have had in long a while. I tend to scroll with pgup/pgdn or arrow keys (or more occasionally, space/shift+space) and when I got to the big "IBM" logo the page just kind of stopped. I thought that was all. It wasn't until I came to this thread I realized there was more, and I should look again, but even then it took me forever to: 1. Realize I needed t…
IBM Plex – A new typeface
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Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
It sure looks like it was designed by committee. It is one of the ugliest typefaces I have ever seen and, having studied typography, I have seen some really shitty ones. What were they thinking with the f and r? This is Times New Roman all over again.
Huh? Times New Roman is at least acceptable; it's legible and was designed by a real type designer. Plex is a complete joke.
Makes me wonder why it's not more popular today.
Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#123From my experience dealing with IBM, I can only imagine this was the result of 5 different consulting teams, assisted by 3 different outsourced development groups, which was delayed numerous times, then Watson was added, and then a re-org caused by layoffs, which finally resulted in a website that couldn't scroll and caused the CPU of my high-end laptop to scream...
You missed the most important part; it was initiated by a team of lawyers who were tipped off by another team who noticed the Watson design team were using a typeface on public websites which they didn't have the copyright to, and certainly didn't have the license to redistribute. Almost 2 years later, Plex was born. (This is a true story, by the way.)
The thing I haven't figured out yet is why they made it open source rather than keeping it exclusively for their own use.
Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#124Lots of jank on an old Nexus 6P. Granted it's not buttery smooth anymore, but that was pretty crazy. Does it load jank free on anyone's mobile device? Curious to know if there are devices out there with no jank on this site.
Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#125Apple, Samsung, Netflix, now IBM... why does everyone need their own typeface? Is it to save on licensing fees? As a user, I don't really find these fonts very distinctive, so I don't associate them with their brands.
Especially with company with as many tentacles as IBM, having own typeface also helps ensure consistent design language across the company, both in terms of licensing (they can use it in any media/geography/field they need) and applicability (they can have all the variants etc needed). Of course cost is also a major aspect. Random article claims that "Until recently, it [IBM] was spending over a million dollars each…
Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#126Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#127Here's the download page if you want to avoid the horrific-to-navigate site: https://github.com/IBM/plex/releases/tag/v1.0.1
(I have to change as now it downloads the whole repo as it used to be in a giant repo with no release.)
Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#128Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#1291. The lower-case ell ("l") and number one ("1") look so similar that I need almost to squint to see the difference, if I'm tired.
2. Plex seems to distinguish between letters by small "inside" features, as opposed to "edge" features. What I mean can be seen by contrasting "a" and "g" in Plex and Monaco.
I think it's this second thing that tires my eyes. While I admit that the letters are clearer in Plex than in Monaco (e.g. there's no mistaking "a" for "o" in Plex), I find that tired eyes can get enough information from the outside shape to distinguish the features, and there is a higher comfort level in viewing the characters, without the extra high-wavenumber twists and turns of the "pen".
Again, I think a lot of this may just be that I have old and never-especially-great eyes. But I thought I'd mention these things, in case younger folks find their eyes growing tired and are wondering why.
Re: IBM Plex – A new typeface
#130My conclusion:
OMG, what has the world come to. It's 2018 and I have more great fonts at my disposal than I know to choose from. I could honestly live with any of them, but I'll stay Plex for a bit, if just for the beautiful 7.
[1] I do have other fine choices, like Inconsolata, Droid Mono, etc, but not enough time to try everything.