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Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by manigandham »

scrollaway wrote: post #4
zebra9978 wrote: post #2

Twitter users are up in arms because of the decision to retire production systems with a 2 months notice - https://twitter.com/thomashermine/status/976398123215065088 https://twitter.com/garethdiz/status/976188140670017536 https://twitter.com/LenioLabsLLC/status/976201790482915328

> Twitter users People . People are up in arms. Anyway, yeah, that's insane. Even Google, who constantly shuts stuff down, usually does so with way more heads up. For comparison, Google Reader, a completely free service, shut down with 3.5 months advance notice. Google Wave got almost 6 months notice.

Google does make a mess with consumer apps but it’s entirely different when it comes to Google Cloud or any of their enterprise products.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by toomuchtodo »

gortok wrote: post #99
cygned wrote: post #34

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I had to make a decision for an orchestration tool a few weeks ago and I went with K8s. One of the main reasons was that even Docker advertises it on its website and with Docker for Mac. I expect Swarm support to be canceled in a not so distant future and I cannot rely on a tool with an unclear future. Which is a pity because I really liked Swarm for its simplicity. Side note: I am also concerned about Docker in gene…

I’m concerned as well. We use Docker and Docker Compose heavily for our development and both on Docker for Windows and Docker for Mac developers have to restart their daemon several times a day. The binaries aren’t open so it’s tough to see and fix the issue; but because we aren’t Docker Enterprise Engine customers, there is no path to support. It would be helpful if there were a way to pay for Docker and receive sup…

Yikes. Surely Docker is providing you more than $200 worth of value a month. If so, why would you only pay $200?

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by is0tope »

I've been meaning to learn kubernetes for a while now having been a docker compose user for a few years. Swarm seemed super appealing due to easy migration and simplicity. Having gone through a few tutorials for Kube I still feel a little overwhelmed with the volume of configuration, and also how local development is meant to be done. This was always a very cool part of compose.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by cygned »

112233 wrote: post #111
cygned wrote: post #36

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> Google Reader It still hurts.

Since I missed on missing it, was there any particular feature that's not in other rss readers? I have only user rss via gwene over nntp, if that went away, i'd miss it bunches.

It’s not about features. Nowadays, I’d go with a self-hosted Open Source application from the start. In fact, that’s what I am looking for at this very moment.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by smarterclayton »

GordonS wrote: post #80
imiric wrote: post #30

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I've noticed the same trend, and as a fan of Docker Swarm, along with this news, I'm not happy about it. Compared to Kubernetes, Swarm is a breeze to setup, deploy and manage. The manifest files are the same Docker Compose files we're used to, just expanded to cover the new stack concepts. It has support for remote storage mounting, advanced networking configuration, various interesting volume and network plugins[0],…

Do you know if there are any good tools for migrating your manifest/compose yaml files to k8s, especially using more recent features such as configs and secrets?

There is kompose with a k: https://github.com/kubernetes/kompose

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by Axsuul »

wstrange wrote: post #118
sandGorgon wrote: post #102

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minikube is a specific version/distro/packaging of kubernetes meant for testing on local laptop. Docker Swarm runs exactly the same way with exactly the same components and with the same ease on laptop as well as the cloud. TL;DR - you cant run minikube in production.

Creating a k8s cluster on GKE is just as easy (a single gcloud command, or use the GUI if that is your preference). With hosted Kubernetes as a service (GKE, AKS and soon EKS), there is little reason to roll your own cluster.

But you see with Docker Swarm, you don't need "Docker Swarm as a service". That's why Docker Swarm wins in simplicity.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by Axsuul »

orf wrote: post #107
sandGorgon wrote: post #102

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minikube is a specific version/distro/packaging of kubernetes meant for testing on local laptop. Docker Swarm runs exactly the same way with exactly the same components and with the same ease on laptop as well as the cloud. TL;DR - you cant run minikube in production.

It's just Kubernetes in a VM, like Docker on Mac is just docker in a VM. You can run Kubernetes on your Linux device machine as-is.

It's what's in the VM that counts.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by zbruhnke »

As I read through this all it feels sort of weird even typing it but I kind of hope Amazon or Microsoft buys Docker rather than Oracle, Google or IBM.

I think Microsoft still employs thousands of great engineers and have been early embracers of containerization among the large companies out there and because Satya was a large part of growing Azure into what it is (IMHO a pretty solid set of services) it could make a lot of sense

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by rmetzler »

zbruhnke wrote: post #128

As I read through this all it feels sort of weird even typing it but I kind of hope Amazon or Microsoft buys Docker rather than Oracle, Google or IBM. I think Microsoft still employs thousands of great engineers and have been early embracers of containerization among the large companies out there and because Satya was a large part of growing Azure into what it is (IMHO a pretty solid set of services) it could make a…

I was wondering if you think the whole Docker inc is closing or something like that. Docker is only shutting down their cloud offering for Docker Swarm and I think it is to bundle their resources and focus on integrating Kubernetes.

Re: Cluster and app management services in Docker Cloud are shutting down on May 21

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Post by rmetzler »

sandGorgon wrote: post #102
pacala wrote: post #100

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$ brew cask install minikube $ minikube start

minikube is a specific version/distro/packaging of kubernetes meant for testing on local laptop. Docker Swarm runs exactly the same way with exactly the same components and with the same ease on laptop as well as the cloud. TL;DR - you cant run minikube in production.

I used kubespray to set up a Kubernetes cluster on our own hardware. I have Ansible and Docker knowledge and ran into a few issues, but it didn't take much time to set up a custom cluster. It's still different as I had issues accessing the UI, but I think it'll become even more easier in the next month.
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