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> adopted some poorly designed abandonware from VMWare I'm late to the game here; was it GSX Server a.k.a. VMware Server?[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware_Server
It was Cloud Foundry, Spring, RabbitMQ and at the time they were sponsoring Antirez (Redis).
Pivotal Software S-1
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#122I consulted at Pivotal on and off over the last several years and got an up-close look at the process. This a heroic feat. In a short matter of years, they took a consulting services company, adopted some poorly designed abandonware from VMWare, and rebuilt it into a product that now serves some of the biggest companies in the world. Pretty much everything has been rewritten and almost all of it is available in githu…
Interesting... I was watching a bunch of Cloud Foundry talks on YouTube around the 2010-2012 era (my memory is hazy). What happened to it? Why did VMWare abandon it? As far as I remember it was written in Ruby / Event Machine. As I understand it, Heroku also has large parts in Ruby, so that isn't a problem by itself. How did Pivotal get involved? Were they hired by VMWare, and then they took it over? Why / how did th…
Cloud Foundry is VERY mature nowadays, is completely opensource and is part of the Linux Foundation. You can view it as Linux, which is the vanilla opensource version and which has different distros (CentOS, Ubuntu, ...)
Cloud Foundry is the vanilla opensource version, and there are many (commercial) distros available, like Pivotal Cloud Foundry, IBM Bluemix, SAP Cloud Platform, etc...
[1] https://bosh.io/
Re: Pivotal Software S-1
#123It's interesting how much the filing seems to revolve around PCF. I played with PCF a few years ago and was really unimpressed. More recently I've been consulting with firms using PCF and the devops guys there seem to really like it and Bosh, so it may have gotten better at least. That said, I just can't understand why you'd ever pick PCF over Kubernetes. Sure, I get one deploys application code, and the other deploy…
Those are different abstraction levels for developers, so it depends on what you wanna create. If you just wanna create tons and tons of new applications in a large scale organisation, go for CF. If you need more flexibility and also need to deploy tooling which runs really well on Docker already, go for Kubernetes.
Important note: Kubernetes does container orchestration adn automation, and it will restart containers when they crash. It will, however, not restart VMs (Nodes) that crash, making it quite hard to manage yourself. Cloud Foundry has Bosh underneath to automatically keep all the machines (VM or bare metal) running.
If you're considering Kubernetes, I would really recommend using a managed service, since managing your own Kubernetes clusters is a PITA.
If you're considering both, then Pivotal Cloud Foundry + Pivotal Container Service (PKS) seems very nice. I saw many demos at SpringOne last december and it looks very promising! Also, they're gonna release Pivotal Function Service as well, which is based on Riff, an opensource FaaS made with Kafka and Zookeeper (its mainly being developed by Mark Fisher and other Pivotal employees)
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> Well either that or staffed 90%+ by H1b. I didn't believe you for a moment, but wow: http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Pivotal+Software+Inc&job=&c...
I keep reading that US companies complain that they dont get skilled people and I always think its because they are not ready to pay a good salary but looking at the list the salaries look good. So is there really a skills shortage?
Re: Pivotal Software S-1
#125https://tinysubversions.com/spooler/?url=https://twitter.com...
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That's most of SF in my experience. Well either that or staffed 90%+ by H1b. Interesting place.
> Well either that or staffed 90%+ by H1b. I didn't believe you for a moment, but wow: http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Pivotal+Software+Inc&job=&c...
http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=visa&job=&city=&year=All+Ye...
http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Adp+Technology+Services+Inc...
I could find you 100s like this just in the Bay Area.
The joke was always, "You're white, why aren't you the manager?"
Re: Pivotal Software S-1
#127This series of posts from a former Pivotal employee provides interesting context: https://matt.sh/anatomy-of-a-fraud https://matt.sh/commit-this https://matt.sh/dumb-pivotal-2018
Not only are many of his claims dubious, unwarranted, or hyperbolic, but there are a few gems like this:
> Remember when the CEO globally emailed a picture of his ugly newborn and drugged up post-birth wife to the entire company because he thinks we all submit to his cult of personality?
It's not uncommon for that to happen. People share pictures of their new kids to their departments and whole companies all the time. Usually it's because new kids are a joyful experience, for, y'know, humans in general. CEOs do it too--for cynical reasons or not--and raging against that, to say nothing of the criticism of the "drugged-up" mother (epidural anesthesia is incredibly helpful and medically essential in tons of births), displays a somewhat shocking failure to grasp typical corporate-people behavior in America at best, and an axe-to-grind willingness to engage in ad-hominem slander of people's families at worst.
Even if any of his claims have merit, I have a ton of trouble believing anything from someone who talks like that.
Re: Pivotal Software S-1
#128I tweeted an analysis of the S-1: https://tinysubversions.com/spooler/?url=https://twitter.com...
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's most of SF in my experience. Well either that or staffed 90%+ by H1b. Interesting place.
> Well either that or staffed 90%+ by H1b. I didn't believe you for a moment, but wow: http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Pivotal+Software+Inc&job=&c...
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The thing is, their flavor of Agile development absolutely does work in practice, and it is hands down the most reliable way to build great software I have ever seen. However it only works if it is pretty much 100% adhered to, hence the stubbornness.
Or alternatively, its a rainmaker situation, like a lot of Agile methodologies.
Not sure how honest the metrics around success will actually be...