I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…
This might be the most brilliant tax plan in the universe. The president wouldn’t be any less revolting because of that. I’m not sure why you are connecting these two ideas. It is true that the partisan extremism of everything leads to people irrationally hating everything someone does (or, as in this case, is loosely associated with), but that doesn’t mean the opposite. This does not and should not wash this revolti…
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's very telling that most of the announcements of benefits to workers purportedly attributable to the tax cuts are in the form of one-time bonuses. The corporate tax cuts are ongoing; the bonuses to workers are one-time. These are nothing more than PR moves. Moreover, the headlines are misleading in some cases; for example, Walmart's touted "$1,000 bonus" was actually $200-$1,000 depending on years of service. Only…
> These are nothing more than PR moves. They’re certainly good for PR, and perhaps that’s the primary intention, but employees are benefitting from it.
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#123I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…
> the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US That doesn't really seem too surprising. The previous administration tried to force them to do it, they refused. The current administration gave them what they wanted, they did it. > If other US corporations follow suit with repatriation, the American economy will experience unprecedented corporate reinve…
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#124All the comments seem to be sketpical or negative. I think it's funny if you go back right before tax reform passed and look at all the comments on articles here on HN almost all were blasting tax reform. Saying it won't work, it does not help the economy, does not create jobs, and repatriation only leads to stock buybacks and executive bonuses. So far we've seen company after company giving substantial bonuses to al…
To be fair the bonuses I've heard about have been laughable so far and accompanied by large lay offs in two cases (Walmart and Comcast).
$1000 is a gigantic bonus for people.
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#125I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…
Not quite. The proposal has been on the table for years. The difference has been how to use the proceeds from repatriation. Republicans wanted lower corporate taxes. Democrats wanted something else. This wasn't new, it wasn't unique, and it wasn't Trump. Believing this was a plan proposed by Trump ignores history and facts. Sure, he signed the bill into law, but the same thing would have effectively happened had Democrats been in charge instead of Republicans.
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#126As a country the US has obligations to its current citizens and its future citizens and those obligations cost money. If we overly celebrate these windfalls every time the tax rate is lowered, we might not realize that what we owe the citizen is being forgot and allowed to erode because the means to pay for it just aren't available.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> a tax plan proposed by a President The corporate tax changes weren't his idea - they have been kicking around Capitol Hill with more or less bipartisan support for years, and it almost happened while Obama was president. The full package of changes wound up being highly politicized and controversial, but the corporate changes were always seen as very likely to pass sooner or later.
They may have been kicked around the Capitol Hill for years but while (D)s had control of the presidency it did not happen. There was a time when (D)s had control of Congress, Senate and Presidency with Obama as a President and it did not happen. To claim this tax cut is a result of bipartisan legislation is rather odd. [Edit] It must be really painful to downvote reality.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair the bonuses I've heard about have been laughable so far and accompanied by large lay offs in two cases (Walmart and Comcast).
$1,000 is not laughable to most people.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. Why is that fascinating? It's the tax holiday the tech megacorps have been asking for since the last one in 2004.
And yet nobody gave it to them until now, which resulted in trillions of dollars that should have been benefitting the US economy sitting unused in places like Ireland.
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-04/apple-buy...
Re: Apple plans new U.S. campus, to pay $38B in foreign cash taxes
#130I find it fascinating that a tax plan proposed by a President reviled throughout the Valley is the one thing that finally convinced Apple to repatriate much of its overseas cash and invest it here in the US. They of course give no credit to him in this press release, but the proof is in the pudding. Of the many heavy handed ideas and efforts made by the previous administration to convince Apple to do this, exactly 0…