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Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Post by Jenya_ »

hsitz wrote: post #89
mikestew wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can run 10mph for 13 miles, and I’m in my fifties. That’s not to brag, but to point out that an 8 mph speed limit on a treadmill is ridiculously low. Sure, it probably fits the 80% use case, but that’s only about 8 minutes/mile. Not a very useful treadmill, IMO. But I’ve been on a treadmill less than a half dozen times in my life, so what do the treadmill makers care what I think. :-)

You're in your fifties and you're running a sub 1:19 HM? Color me dubious on that one. Possible, but not likely. Although you're right that it would be a piss-poor treadmill if it were built to max out at 8 minutes/mile pace or slower. I suspect none are, but I think the fellow reporting it was at heavy weight, so perhaps that affected things.

statistics shows there are indeed some runners in this age group which run 10k close to 6 minutes per mile and even faster:

http://www.pace-calculator.com/10k-pace-comparison.php

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Post by mikestew »

hsitz wrote: post #89
mikestew wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can run 10mph for 13 miles, and I’m in my fifties. That’s not to brag, but to point out that an 8 mph speed limit on a treadmill is ridiculously low. Sure, it probably fits the 80% use case, but that’s only about 8 minutes/mile. Not a very useful treadmill, IMO. But I’ve been on a treadmill less than a half dozen times in my life, so what do the treadmill makers care what I think. :-)

You're in your fifties and you're running a sub 1:19 HM? Color me dubious on that one. Possible, but not likely. Although you're right that it would be a piss-poor treadmill if it were built to max out at 8 minutes/mile pace or slower. I suspect none are, but I think the fellow reporting it was at heavy weight, so perhaps that affected things.

You caught me. 1:23, close enough for illustrative purposes. Besides, the age group record is 1:09, 1:19 isn’t that fast.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Post by hsitz »

mikestew wrote: post #122
hsitz wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're in your fifties and you're running a sub 1:19 HM? Color me dubious on that one. Possible, but not likely. Although you're right that it would be a piss-poor treadmill if it were built to max out at 8 minutes/mile pace or slower. I suspect none are, but I think the fellow reporting it was at heavy weight, so perhaps that affected things.

You caught me. 1:23, close enough for illustrative purposes. Besides, the age group record is 1:09, 1:19 isn’t that fast.

Ha, still not bad, kudos. 1:19 is further out on bell curve tail, enough to raise some doubt, at least on a geeky website . . . .

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Post by jandrese »

brianwawok wrote: post #101
jandrese wrote: post #12

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13.1 mph is a decent pace on a bike! That's the sort of pace you set for a commute to split minimizing your commute time with arriving at work not completely exhausted and sweaty.

Are you including stopsigns in that, or actual steady state? I think up to 15 or 18 mph is pretty easy pace for anyone who even road bikes once a week.

Depends how hilly the terrain is.

Re: Nike’s Two Hour Marathon Attempt

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Post by adrianmonk »

runamok wrote: post #118
adrianmonk wrote: post #77

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It isn't just perfect, lab-like conditions. It's a different set of rules. The International Association of Athletics Federations sets standards of what constitutes a marathon. Nike's event didn't follow those rules, so results in the two can't be directly compared. It's apples and oranges. The most undeniable difference between the Breaking2 event and what would be allowed in an record-eligible marathon is the pacer…

They could have played games with the groups letting them get lapped but that would have probably been very challenging to implement.

Ah, thinking like an engineer!

You're clever, but the IAAF is thorough. Rule 144.3 says:

"For the purpose of this Rule, the following examples shall be considered assistance, and are therefore not allowed: (a) Pacing in races by persons not participating in the same race, by athletes lapped or about to be lapped or by any kind of technical device (other than those permitted under Rule 144.4(d))."

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