So... anyone knows a good VideoStream replacement?
Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
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Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#122So... anyone knows a good VideoStream replacement?
Videostream is a good Videostream replacement. New version is not a Chrome App, beta at https://getvideostream.com/ ;)
Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You mean that they finally started to pay attention to the ludicrous crap they were giving money to that advertisers wanted nothing to do with? No, it means they've started promoting crap for monetizing and penalizing things that people actually want to see. > Advertisers don’t want to sponsor “anything” because it reflects poorly on them. Given the human scum that are advertisers, I doubt anything could reflect po…
> No, it means they've started promoting crap for monetizing and penalizing things that people actually want to see. Could you explain this part? I thought the whole issue was YT was being more selective about the videos they monetized with ads. > Given the human scum that are advertisers, I doubt anything could reflect poorly on them. If that was true boycotting brands wouldn’t be effective. But it is VERY effective…
Here's a perspective on the former issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZakJFqdpRY
Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#124As a chrome app dev (Videostream is our app) the transition has been really annoying. They've given us ample time to prepare for the shutdown and we've developed a new app, from scratch, to work outside of the Chrome app world but they (as engineers tend to do) did nothing to mitigate the disaster of a transition. Through blogs, tweets, etc. directly pointing to the webstore, we have years of SEO built up all pointing directly to what will now be a dead link.
We've been pestering Google for a way to have a redirect or link on that page that says "get the app for windows and mac in its new home over here" but they haven't been very responsive. It's such a shitty way to treat developers who chose your ecosystem and who you did a certain amount of convincing. They have done this to us once before, with their wallet for digital goods, where they shut that down and developers lost any recurring subscriptions they had on the platform.
Basically, google is brutal if you develop on a platform for them that they decide to axe, they really don't think of the people and companies and how they will be affected and we now think twice before choosing to use anything they maintain.
Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, the problem is that a lot of good content got flagged while a lot of garbage is still monetized.
It will all be sorted out (to some degree). I don’t understand how YouTubers expected to never have advertisers try to scrutinize what they’re supporting or putting their name next to. And yes, good people are getting dragged down by association because there are other things on YT that are toxic to advertisers like the weird copyright infringing kids content or the seemingly abusive kids content. But if YT is going…
>I don’t understand how YouTubers expected to never have advertisers try to scrutinize what they’re supporting or putting their name next to.
For one, because they shouldn't have a say. They should pay for views, and that's it. If they don't like a specific program, they can not sponsor it -- but not try to affect regular ad rotation through all kinds of videos a users sees through their ad money.
Because with the latter way, advertisers also get censorship power over content providers. Which is something only the public should have (view or not view).
Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#126Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is news to me. I thought WkWebview used the same internals as mobile safari. So it's just the JS engine/Nitro that's the same?
I'm not even sure what is the same and what is different, and there isn't anywhere that I found that explains it easily (if it can even be explained easily). I think the difference might just be in the rendering engine. So Safari uses "safari", and WkWebView uses straight WebKit? But even that isn't true since there are things that WkWebViews support that WebKit doesn't... But there are many differences between them.…
Well that sucks. Thanks a lot for the info.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not even sure what is the same and what is different, and there isn't anywhere that I found that explains it easily (if it can even be explained easily). I think the difference might just be in the rendering engine. So Safari uses "safari", and WkWebView uses straight WebKit? But even that isn't true since there are things that WkWebViews support that WebKit doesn't... But there are many differences between them.…
Well that sucks. Thanks a lot for the info.
No problem, hopefully you don't get caught with your pants down like I did.
I forgot to actually test that a proof-of-concept of a new feature using WebRTC in a WebView until it was already like 70% done. I heard it worked in iOS 11, I tried it in safari and developed it like that, then once I started more in depth testing and integration I saw the problem.
So now I make sure I test everything in a WebView (if needed), as an "added to homescreen" web app, and as a safari tab ASAP.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can’t you automatically detect this problem and tell the users when they try to do this?
Yes, but people become untrustworthy very quickly. It doesn't make any sense to them, so they distrust it. Especially because we had been encouraging the act of bookmarking our web app on the homescreen for years (since it works great for our use case! Offline access is possible, loads quickly, no worries of apple shutting us down, and it's as cross platform as it gets). Also the wording is difficult. Telling users t…
You could check if one of the features that is only available on the home screen is available
Re: Chrome Apps are dead, as Google shuts down the Chrome Web Store section
#130Hopefully this convinced the last person still gullible enough to believe on Google's interest to maintain long term (let's say, more than a decade) any service that's not Search, Ads, YouTube, Gmail or Android. I wouldn't build much on GAE either...
> any service that's not Search, Ads, YouTube, Gmail or Android I think you mean "any service that's not Search or Ads". Ads pay the bills, so every service is only useful as long as it increases ad revenue. Search may be special since Google cannot afford the damage to its brand if it shuts down search because it's not bringing in enough ad revenue.
IIRC, Google Play has billions of dollars in non-ad revenue. People are willing to spend money on (or in) apps and games.
Ads still make more, but at this point Google is not entirely just an advertising company.