Ever since deleting facebook I've felt so much ___. It's only once I quit the site I was able to take a long hard look at my perception of ____ and realized that everyone else does ____ while I should do _____. I realized that I'm actually ____, not ____. I started handling my _____ relationships in a healthier, more ____ manner.
How do I permanently delete my account?
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Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you need to be an EU resident, citizen or just on holiday?
GDPR will cover anyone in the EU. Doesn't cover citizens outside of the EU, and does cover visitors to the EU while they are there. EDIT: But it's also likely that they will enable the protections for everyone in the world, because the risk of accidental non compliance is huge. Similar to how the cookie notification is just displayed everywhere now.
Actually, my experience in Europe is that some organizations only remove data that is visible by others on the same continent or even just a single country in the EU, while allowing that content to remain visible outside the EU.
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it ironic, you are user "a254613e" that's literally all anybody on NF knows about you. That's pretty anonymous no? HN has no real name policy or even requirement of a verified email to participate.
That's great if you sign up with the intention of posting anonymously, but if you post here for years using your name or your chosen alias (eg I'm onion2k on everything; it's trivial to find out who I am), and then decide you don't want to be associated with your HN history it's not so helpful. Also forensic tools are clever enough to take someone's comment history and use the little information in there to work out…
Hi Chris
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#124The GDPR is a huge deal and absolutely no joke. This is part of the compliance for that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula... It has the potential to completely change the way tech giants are able to provide their services. Each "purpose" that data is collected for must be individually consented, and it's prohibited for purposes to be withheld if others are not consented to. This allows a u…
I assume that companies can deny services that cost them money if you don’t consent to services that create revenue. Is this true?
It appears not - it requires the consent to be freely given, as in, the customer actually wants you to process the data or the data is inherently necessary for the service e.g. a shipping address to ship goods. "'consent' of the data subject means any freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of the data subject's wishes by which he or she, by a statement or by a clear affirmative action, signifies agreement to the processing of personal data relating to him or her;"
Article 7.4 "When assessing whether consent is freely given, utmost account shall be taken of whether, inter alia, the performance of a contract, including the provision of a service, is conditional on consent to the processing of personal data that is not necessary for the performance of that contract."
Recital 43 "...Consent is presumed not to be freely given if [...] or if the performance of a contract, including the provision of a service, is dependent on the consent despite such consent not being necessary for such performance."
Companies can deny services that cost them money unless you pay; but if you make "consent" as a condition for everyone then it's assumed that it's not freely given consent. You can deny service to everyone, but you can't require consent from everyone. That's not a new thing - that's exactly how the law works already regarding e.g. spam restrictions; you can have opt-in confirmation only if it's optional, if you make it mandatory to "opt-in" (e.g. deny registration unless the opt-in is checked) then it's not consent.
Also, even if you have consent, it can be revoked at any time (e.g. 5 minutes after the user received what they wanted), and you have to unconditionally remove the private information from your systems, even if you gave them a discount because they had "consented" at that moment.
Also, the customer may give you consent to process their data as such (e.g. include in your service) but object to their use in targeted marketing.
Article 21 (Right to object) "... (2) Where personal data are processed for direct marketing purposes, the data subject shall have the right to object at any time to processing of personal data concerning him or her for such marketing, which includes profiling to the extent that it is related to such direct marketing. (3) Where the data subject objects to processing for direct marketing purposes, the personal data shall no longer be processed for such purposes." - so it should be expected that even if you have consensually obtained the data, then you cannot use it freely, you can use it only for particular purposes; and things like EULAs can't override that.
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is it ironic, you are user "a254613e" that's literally all anybody on NF knows about you. That's pretty anonymous no? HN has no real name policy or even requirement of a verified email to participate.
That's great if you sign up with the intention of posting anonymously, but if you post here for years using your name or your chosen alias (eg I'm onion2k on everything; it's trivial to find out who I am), and then decide you don't want to be associated with your HN history it's not so helpful. Also forensic tools are clever enough to take someone's comment history and use the little information in there to work out…
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Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#126It's kinda ironic that all the people here are complaining that facebook might not actually really delete literally every single bit of information that you have, while hacker news doesn't allow you to edit your comments, delete them, or delete your profile. This sort of functionality should exist on every platform that even has accounts. Does anyone know if GDPR (or similar law in the future) will actually force HN…
Why is it ironic, you are user "a254613e" that's literally all anybody on NF knows about you. That's pretty anonymous no? HN has no real name policy or even requirement of a verified email to participate.
That's pretty naive. When you have an account for a while, a lot can be deduced from the comments you make - both from what you say, how you say it, and when.
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can one collect data without "personal data" by anonymizing those specific attributes (ip, phone number)? Also, say, I want to collect data about the performance of the web application. Can that be collected, or does it require explicit consent as well?
Yes. If the data cannot be tracked to one person, it is not regulated. So anonymous tracking cookies are still OK, but attaching it to an IP/name/phone number etc. is not.
I don’t believe that’s true. “Anonymous” tracking cookies are still unique to the individual and such can easily contribute to identifying them, and so are included as personal.
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand your sentiment but I don't think deleting comments would make sites like these (community driven) appealing. Missing comments creates a big hole to a comment train, look at reddit. Missing/Deleted comments make the whole comment tree below it quite meaningless. HN would invite a lot of trolls with this an would make it really difficult to create a submission archive that makes sense. Now I don't know how…
Deleted accounts could retain the comments but anonymise the accounts. Also I don't think having the ability to delete your profile invites trolls. Usually one deletes their account because they post something wrong but which they genuinely believe is true then get downvoted and / or trolled into oblivion. These people we should probably be working to retain because while they might have been wrong, their contributio…
I left after being hounded by trolls and sock puppets and, a year later, far from being deleted (as requested twice by email) my account was instead shadow banned.
Of course, likely as not this post itself is invisible. Likely as not the GDPR is as uninteresting as user's needs. Likely as not, Hanlon's razor applies. Although I would not brag about the last possibility.
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
>But afaik hn does no business in the EU - so it's not clear what sanctions would be applicable. Since EU citizens are registered users, it applies.
No. EU laws/regulations dont't apply outside its jurisdiction. GPDR will affect Facebook, Google etc. just because they are operating in EU market[0]: "This won't apply to every U.S. business — just the ones that are knowingly, and actively, conducting business in the EU. In this vein, EU courts have the discretionary ability to determine if a U.S. company was purposely collecting EU resident data and subverting GDPR…
I respectfully disagree. As you can see at [0], quote, "as [the GDPR] applies to all companies processing the personal data of data subjects residing in the Union, regardless of the company’s location [...] Non-Eu businesses processing the data of EU citizens will also have to appoint a representative in the EU."
edit: This means it applies to EU citizens regardless of where the processor is located and to non-EU citizens if they are currently in the EU
Re: How do I permanently delete my account?
#130Sad that Apple does not allow you to delete your account. Even Facebook does? PS; if you think I am wrong post a direct link how to delete within Apple's domain. Trust me it does not exist.
Actually there’s some security reasons why. An iCloud id have muliple purposes in the Apple ecosystem. You can use it like an e-mail address or caller/messaging contact id. Now imagine if they will free up your username and later someone else will register it. Or worst, you used that e-mail address to register in some other services.
Well they need not release the Apple-id to others.