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The delivery business is wildly unprofitable and just runs on VC money. As soon as this economic cycle is all over they'll probably all be out of business.
Ya, there is this ridiculous notion that, like Uber, you can just subsidize until they've run everyone else out of the market. But in reality, if Uber or door dash or whoever take over their respective markets and then back up prices, people will stop using them just as quickly as they started and smaller, cheaper competitors will pop right back up. You don't exactly need a multi-million dollar war chest to start del…
Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
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Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
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Call me crazy, but when I use one of these services, I expect the service to be reflected in the price.
That's not crazy, it sounds like a convenient way for you to justify stiffing all the people these apps help you exploit.
Instacart wants me to tip 20%, so that's $40 on a $200 grocery order to carry my groceries 3 miles.
I have no idea what's appropriate, but that seems outrageous.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I had tipped her. $20. She showed me her phone with the app on our order. DoorDash told her we had tipped her $6 This is why I almost always tip in Cash. I hand it to the person, in person. San Francisco's Indian Restaurants (Indian here, and I go to the Indian restaurants here all the time, that's how I know) are notorious for not passing on any of the tips left on the card to the waitstaff, and some even don't gi…
Seriously!? I go to Indian restaurants in SF all the time and I've only ever paid by card. Do the waiters get to keep the tip if you give it to them with cash?
In most Indian & Pakistani places, yes. There are some exceptions.
The owner of Raavi on Jackson St takes the cash tips placed in the Tip Jar at closing (so the waiters don't get it even if it's cash). The owners of Little Delhi on Eddy St near the Westfields Mall take all the cash tips for themselves and don't allow the waitstaff to take cash from the patron. I tried giving it to the girl and she said they are not allowed to accept it. So I don't leave anything on card or cash when I eat at Little Delhi.
I feel bad exposing these guys cos the owners are good friends, but this is just plain wrong.
This is the reason I give cash, in person, to the person. Only way to ensure 100% that waitress or waiter gets the $. When I tried that at Little Delhi, the girl said "We are not allowed to take cash" and that's when I found out that the owner eat all the credit card tips, and cash tips placed inside the bill / check folder.
Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
#124The stories about large Bay-area tech companies placing enormous orders through Instacart are pretty appalling.
Ironically enough this wouldn't be an issue almost anywhere outside the US, where online groceries shopping was solved by the supermarkets themselves in the early 2000s. Despite employee benefits, minimum wages, collective bargaining and all that.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seriously!? I go to Indian restaurants in SF all the time and I've only ever paid by card. Do the waiters get to keep the tip if you give it to them with cash?
> Do the waiters get to keep the tip if you give it to them with cash? In most Indian & Pakistani places, yes. There are some exceptions. The owner of Raavi on Jackson St takes the cash tips placed in the Tip Jar at closing (so the waiters don't get it even if it's cash). The owners of Little Delhi on Eddy St near the Westfields Mall take all the cash tips for themselves and don't allow the waitstaff to take cash fro…
Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do the waiters get to keep the tip if you give it to them with cash? In most Indian & Pakistani places, yes. There are some exceptions. The owner of Raavi on Jackson St takes the cash tips placed in the Tip Jar at closing (so the waiters don't get it even if it's cash). The owners of Little Delhi on Eddy St near the Westfields Mall take all the cash tips for themselves and don't allow the waitstaff to take cash fro…
I frequent Little Delhi the most out of all the Indian places I go to. Sad to hear this.
Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
#127Instacart pay depends entirely on where you work. My brother works for them in SF/SV and earns around $2k/week with wages and tips. For someone with zero skills or job training otherwise it's a pretty sweet deal. Plus you end up with a car load of free groceries to take home whenever the system screws up an order.
> Instacart pay depends entirely on where you work. My brother works for them in SF/SV and earns around $2k/week with wages and tips. For someone with zero skills or job training otherwise it's a pretty sweet deal. Plus you end up with a car load of free groceries to take home whenever the system screws up an order. Funny how we were hearing these stories about Uber as well a few years ago, where people online were p…
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There are, but at the same time there are restaurants that have had a lot of trouble with this approach because it raises the perceived price of the restaurant. It really seems damned-if-you-do.
Sure, if only some restaurants in an area do this. But what if they all did it?
"What if"--but they won't, so perturb not those electrons and stick to the real, yeah?
Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
#129Is this corporate greed or is the value of unskilled labor quickly approaching zero?
In the US, the price of unskilled labour has been deliberately driven down by decades of non-enforcement of immigration laws. Even a year after the election of a President who was supposed to deal with this issue there's been very little action. In Australia we have control of our borders and the price of unskilled labour is more respectable.
NYT: Workers Lured to Australia Find Low Pay and Tough Conditions
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/world/australia/temporary...
Re: Some Instacart workers to strike over pay that can be as low as $1 per hour
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would however mean the delivery person will believe you intend to tip zero until you actually do. Not discussing whether it is right or not, but I assume that could affect the received service.
Huh? It's very common to tip delivery people in cash. I remember not that long ago when there wasn't even another option -- you'd order the phone and then pay in cash (including tip) when the delivery driver arrived.