I'm impressed HN — not a single mention yet of hypergamy, SMV or Red Pill theory! (and now I've gone and ruined it)
Always keep Law 38 in mind.
The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Parent is using blunt language to communicate economically, don't read into it too much. The women displaying such mate selection patterns could easily be friendly, sociable, and well-liked.
LOL. I'm a cis white dude, 39, make ~300k year, skipped grad school, mild child prodigy, am in decent shape and am very tall. From my experience, women in major cities, especially in the U.S., are predominantly jaded, lack (or feign) general life-skills, life-experience, purpose, respect, manners, direction, trustworthiness and reciprocity. To me, the biggest turn-offs (sans personality disorders): materialism, strat…
I think this might come off as negative to some, but I feel the exact same way. Very successful for my age, and I can easily date women. I am constantly let down by how low quality they are. They might be physically attractive, but beyond that I feel like I am jumping from poor relationship prospect to poor relationship for eternity.
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#123I've noticed the preferences among my male and female friends diverging over time. In college, everyone seemed to want the same thing -- a partner that was both successful and attractive. But now as we make it to our late twenties, I noticed that they "settle" differently. My female friends increasingly prefer an older guy with a great career and my male friends a younger woman who is less accomplished than they were…
>I have definitely noticed the happiest people I know, in terms of romance, found their life partner in college. Definitely. I am almost 30, and I started dating extremely late (26). I'm happy with who I'm with right now, but I envy people who met their significant others in their teens or early 20s. They were able to grow together throughout early adulthood. I had to go through it all alone. I will do everything pos…
26 is considered extremely late? ._.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's one of the drivers causing all developed countries to have a fertility rate below the replacement rate. Japan's population, which is shrinking, worries about an aging majority without a base of young healthy workers who can support the economy and social programs. They are trying to mend this in the medium term by encouraging more women into the workforce, but, as we see from this article, that may have the unin…
That's a problem for Japan, but not rich western countries which can simply accept more immigration.
There is nothing simple about accepting more immigration, just look to Brexit for that.
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#125> They end up being forced to compete for the limited pool of educated men not just with their more numerous educated rivals, but also with less educated women whom men find desirable on other dimensions. Considering that we want to eliminate any gaps between the genders, why are educated women limited to educated men of their own ages? Why not increase the pool like men do: go for more younger, possibly less educate…
Indeed. This is an imaginary crisis invented by people who just want to whine instead of finding solutions for themselves. Travel and online dating are (relatively) cheap. If someone can't find an educated husband in Manhattan then take a trip to Shenzhen or Houston or wherever.
The crisis, according to male psychologue, is that women end up ok being single and don't care about finding partner. Also, women being more competitive for existing males by having sex faster is some kind of problem.
Which is, according to him, something entirely different then dudes being single in Sillicon Valley where is surplus of males. Because, again, according to him, these dudes can find one night stands and care more about those anyway and thus everything is cool there.
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#126Is this a problem that needs to be solved, though? I see a dichotomy here. On one hand, we would like to have more women in the "educated" and therefore, high-income workforce. This, in turn, causes imbalance in the dating market and may force the women in the high-income bracket to make a concession(by lowering their standards, etc). On the other, we can go back to the model where men dominate the high-income workfo…
Those things are related. If you are more conservative and sort of feel that male should be primary breadwinner and women should be more of caregiver, then the relative preferences follow logically. It does not need to be expressed political opinion or judgement about other people, it is enough when dude feels bad if he is not competitive at work and she feels like bad mother compared to other mothers.
Add to it an 80 hours a week expected working schedule for professionals that makes it impossible to spend much time together and any other choice don't even make sense.
For anything else, there needs to be real relationship and time spent together etc. Which is something I don't see these articles talk about at all - they treat marriage/relationship as a technical thing that people just suddenly do without really needing to work on or spend time on.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Considering that we want to eliminate any gaps between the genders, why are educated women limited to educated men of their own ages? Biologically and evolutionarily speaking, men want younger and more fertile women to mate with. Women want established males ( their age or older ) to mate with. > Why not increase the pool like men do: go for more younger, possibly less educated men (as the article implies for men)?…
1. Many women want the option to stay home and raise their own children, at least for a few years. If a woman marries an otherwise-wonderful man who earns half her salary, she will not be able to easily stay home with her own child while maintaining their former standard of living. So there are some logistical concerns here that just aren't there for men. Perhaps in a country with a lot of paid maternity leave, these…
> Many women want the option to stay home and raise their own children, at least for a few years.
> So there are some logistical concerns here that just aren't there for men.
It's true that more women want this than men, certainly in the U.S., but you can't say the concerns "just aren't there for men" -- already in this thread there are men saying they want to be stay-at-home dads.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a problem for Japan, but not rich western countries which can simply accept more immigration.
There is nothing simple about accepting more immigration, just look to Brexit for that.
Or Germany. It was just announced today that Merkel was unable to form a majority coalition after the recent election:
> Merkel was weakened after a September election as voters angry with her decision in 2015 to open Germany’s borders to more than a million asylum seekers punished her conservatives by voting for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/merkel-f...
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is nothing simple about accepting more immigration, just look to Brexit for that.
Or Germany. It was just announced today that Merkel was unable to form a majority coalition after the recent election: > Merkel was weakened after a September election as voters angry with her decision in 2015 to open Germany’s borders to more than a million asylum seekers punished her conservatives by voting for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/mer…
> Or Germany. It was just announced today that Merkel was unable to form a majority coalition after the recent election
One has nothing to do with the other.
The political landscape in Germany is transforming, and has been since long before the refugee crisis. Previously typical majority constellations have gone away (and won't come back, AfD or no), and the parties are struggling to find a place in this new reality.
The failure of this round of coalition talks was due to one party not understanding that they need to be more flexible in the new political reality.
My personal suspicion is that, should it come to reelections, they would be punished for their stubbornness.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or Germany. It was just announced today that Merkel was unable to form a majority coalition after the recent election: > Merkel was weakened after a September election as voters angry with her decision in 2015 to open Germany’s borders to more than a million asylum seekers punished her conservatives by voting for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics/mer…
> Or Germany. It was just announced today that Merkel was unable to form a majority coalition after the recent election One has nothing to do with the other. The political landscape in Germany is transforming, and has been since long before the refugee crisis. Previously typical majority constellations have gone away (and won't come back, AfD or no), and the parties are struggling to find a place in this new reality.…
I directly quotes Reuters.
> Merkel was weakened after a September election as voters angry with her decision in 2015 to open Germany’s borders to more than a million asylum seekers punished her conservatives by voting for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party
She had trouble forming a coalition because her party's share was further weakened after the vote, presumably because of 2015 migration crisis and the rise of AfD, requiring a potential partnership with 2 different parties, at different ends of the political spectrum, in addition to Merkel's.