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Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by naasking »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #22

Firefox has definitely been getting better over the past year or two. I've always used Firefox, since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs, they just get smaller and smaller on the tab bar. I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor. Firefox also lazy loads existing tabs on startup. Anyway, for a while, around 2011-2012, Firefox had terrible memory and stability i…

> I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor.

I don't want it. I don't like Firefox's approach, I much prefer the shrinking tabs paradigm.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by mwill »

nicoburns wrote: post #76
mwill wrote: post #64

I'm not looking forward to this, I realize they've made speed improvements, but the entire reason I'm on FF at all is Tab Groups, which seems to be dead. I know it's not heavily used, but it's going to be painful for me to get used to browsing without it. I'm aware that there's a proposal to add an API to make it possible under the new system, but last time I checked the ticket, recent activity was someone from the t…

I feel your pain on the tab groups extension. I find that extension really helpful too. I'm pretty optimistic that this will be a temporary pain though. My reading of that issue ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1384515 ) is that there are a lot of people interested in working on it, and they even have working code. It does seem that a relatively senior Mozilla employee who has joined the discussion late…

Ah last I looked was a couple weeks ago, right after the comment basically saying "we tried this before and decided against it", it does look slightly more optimistic.

But even the new comments mention that there isn't a consensus on if they actually want to implement it.

There have been bugzilla issues that seem simple that have been ignored for a literal decade, so I won't celebrate until this actually lands.

If it does I'll probably roll the extension myself if no one beats me to it.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by thriftwy »

Siecje wrote: post #114
thriftwy wrote: post #21

Is this the one that makes you launch Chrome for Hangouts/GoToMeeting/etc? Because why won't you then use Chrome in the first place?

This is a problem with Google only making things work with Chrome. http://www.otsukare.info/2014/10/28/google-webcompatibility-...

Hangouts used to work and I guess they still do on ESR.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by m_st »

dingo_bat wrote: post #41
toomanybeersies wrote: post #22

Firefox has definitely been getting better over the past year or two. I've always used Firefox, since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs, they just get smaller and smaller on the tab bar. I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor. Firefox also lazy loads existing tabs on startup. Anyway, for a while, around 2011-2012, Firefox had terrible memory and stability i…

> I'm surprised more tech people don't use it, considering the tech communities love for power and the ability to customise things. I used to be pretty fanatical about Firefox. But when it got so slow that simple scrolling started dropping frames, I had to switch.

Consider giving it a try again with the Firefox Beta (or wait for 57 final next week). I switched back from Chrome.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by dralley »

mwill wrote: post #117
nhumrich wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> then just switch back to Chrome. I understand your want for tab groups, but what does switching to chrome matter? You cant do tab groups in chrome either. What does chrome have that ff57 doesnt?

I used Chrome(ium) for years before tab groups got me to switch to FF, if you take away tab groups, I'd rather just go back to it, if for no other reason that principle. Mozilla won me over by having the more flexible browser, that flexibility is going away, I have no loyalty to them beyond that, honestly. May not make much sense but that's how I feel.

It's still going to be the more flexible browser. It already supports webextension APIs that Chrome doesn't, with more on the roadmap.

Of course it still pales in comparison to what you could do with XUL, but the point remains. Firefox addons will still be more capable than Chrome ones.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by jacksmith21006 »

For me no incentive to switch from Chrome. I am a bit lazy and if not broken why increase hassle in switching. Plus when did a while back just switched back to chrome when FF became sluggish.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by vram22 »

mariusmg wrote: post #37
flohofwoe wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like in Firefox v56 you need to change the start page to "blank" in the preferences (edit: to get the address bar focused after opening a window). However in current Nightly (which is on v58) the input focus goes straight to the address bar, even in the default settings, so looks like more users complained ;) I'm just using Ctrl-L to focus the address bar, works on all operating systems and browsers.

Alt +D. Left hand friendly :)

Didn't know that. It's handy. Thank you :)

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by steveklabnik »

Sean1708 wrote: post #100
SimeVidas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Nighty version will always be the best version ;)

> The Nighty version will always be the best version Is that the version I put on just before I'm about to go to bed?

Depends on what time zone you're in; I'm a recent nightly convert, and am currently in a very different TZ than usual. I had gotten used to around when updates would come through, but now I'm all screwed up :)

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by gcb0 »

jacksmith21006 wrote: post #126

For me no incentive to switch from Chrome. I am a bit lazy and if not broken why increase hassle in switching. Plus when did a while back just switched back to chrome when FF became sluggish.

so why not stick to ie/safari?
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