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First field report of iPhone X

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by Slaul »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #104
Slaul wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For whatever reason I was under the impression that those phones were larger than they are. Thanks for pointing those out to me! I'm still probably going to switch to Apple because I've been working towards being more privacy conscious in the last several months and Apple's stance on privacy and encryption is appealing.

Switching to Apple doesn't really seem like a good way to move towards being more privacy conscious. Even if you don't mind the walled garden and lack of control of your own device (you should if you really want to care about privacy), recent revelations like silently granting special permissions to Uber app should remove any remaining appeal there may have been in them.

I'm not looking to build the fort knox of phones or anything, I'm trying to take the path of least resistance to having a more private, secure device.

I'd rather have a phone/OS built by a company whose primary source of revenue is not user data.

From my, admittedly limited, understanding of the issues between iOS and Android it seems like iOS is more secure/privacy oriented with some obvious caveats like the Uber app issue you mentioned.

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Post by pertymcpert »

pacala wrote: post #24
yequalsx wrote: post #14

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You appear to be assuming that integrating Touch ID into the display was Apple's first choice. If face ID works as promised I can’t see why anyone would prefer Touch ID over Face ID. Even if your assumption is correct Face ID is still innovative.

TouchID requires me to touch the device. I _know_ when I'm identified. FaceID works at a distance, data could easily leak to any number of surveillance programs, corporate or governmental.

The data won't be leaked.

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Post by turtlebits »

RoyTyrell wrote: post #110

My two questions are: 1. Is the X worth the extra $200/$300 on top of the 8? 2. Is the X worth the $1k+ I know "worth" is relative and depends on your personal requirements, but from someone who's likely a software dev on this site, is it really worth spending that kind of money?

The $200 is worth it just for the form factor - smaller than the plus yet a bigger screen. That is, if I compare it to the 8. If you're locked the Apple ecosystem, then I'd say yes.

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Post by hungerstrike »

Face ID is going to be a monumental failure for people who dock their phones on their desk or car. It's also going to annoy everybody who likes things to happen fast all the time because Face ID will definitely cause a delay and frustrate every user at some point. I have no doubt about this.

The lack of a home button is probably the worst design decision. They should have gone with dedicated virtual home button or better yet, stick with the iPhone 7 style home button. iOS 10 and 11 already has too many problems distinguishing between "global gestures" and "application gestures".

EDIT: Oh please - tell me why you disagree and prove to me that you're not just an illogical, emotional mob. You think Apple never made a mistake? Pffffftttt! I just spilled my coffee.

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Post by mgce »

iainmerrick wrote: post #88
curiousgal wrote: post #43

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Not to be blunt but why get the phone if it’s going to make your life miserable in a sense?

If you're an Apple user, you don't really get a choice over whether to adopt this new stuff. You'll either buy it now, or you'll have to buy it anyway the next time you upgrade because there won't be any other options. Or you switch to Android. Often this is fine because the new stuff is unambiguously great. Sometimes it's miserable. That's life as an Apple customer.

I bought an iPhone 6 on eBay about a month ago after another one broke. It's good as new, works perfectly, was super-easy to purchase.

So don't worry: the Apple upgrade cycle really isn't that bad.

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Post by mattnewton »

aetherson wrote: post #50
waytogo wrote: post #13

Slightly OT: I am most impressed by Apple‘s bold move to drop the iPhone‘s decade old, iconic symmetric design while establishing a new iconic asymmetric design almost over night. As odd as the new design feels, Apple already owns this design, this buckle, this asymmetry. Edit: Why the downvotes (just wondering)?

I downvoted you because I thought your comment was without content. What does it mean, to own the design? What alternate world would cause you to feel differently about the design?

Not gp, but it means to me that when someone looks at the layout they unmistakably know it is an iPhone X, in the way the phone’s top and bottom bars used to mean iPhone.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by mfoy_ »

RoyTyrell wrote: post #110

My two questions are: 1. Is the X worth the extra $200/$300 on top of the 8? 2. Is the X worth the $1k+ I know "worth" is relative and depends on your personal requirements, but from someone who's likely a software dev on this site, is it really worth spending that kind of money?

I'll be in the market for a new phone in the next year, and I've got to say I can see the appeal, but the price tag is pretty high.

For me, the major features are the look-to-unlock and water resistant features. Whether those are worth the $300+ premium, is certainly under debate in my mind... I guess I'll have to wait and reevaluate when the time comes to actually make the change.

I'm really not into the whole photography / Instagram scene, so the camera is less of a selling point for me, but you can't exactly get a phone these days without a camera, so it may as well be a nice one for those rare occasions when I do want to take a picture...

The only real point of concern I have is that for $1000+ (more, considering it'd be in CAD for me) how long is the phone going to last me? If it's on the planned obsolescence timeline of 2 years, that's a hefty fee... If, instead, they made it more truly "premium" and as such would last 3-4 years then it becomes a lot more agreeable. But I guess there's no way to know that without taking the plunge. :(

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Post by com2kid »

madeofpalk wrote: post #99
dogma1138 wrote: post #40

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Because it can be unlocked in your pocket for SOS use cases. Because it can be unlocked under the table or at a very low angle to be used in places such as a restaurant, meeting room, theater etc. Because one can use TouchID for Apple Pay much quicker and more reliably in a crowded/rushed situation such as paying for public transport. Becuase TouchID actually allows multiple users on the same device if if that is not…

Sure. TouchID can't be used if your fingers are wet or wrinkly. Since I found out about FaceID I've noticed a bunch of scenarios where TouchID falls short and I have to drastically change how I'm using the phone or what I'm doing to accomodate unlocking using a specific finger. > Because one can use TouchID for Apple Pay much quicker and more reliably in a crowded/rushed situation such as paying for public transport.…

> Since moving to the UK I was keen to give Apple Pay a try on the tube and I was disgusted at how slow it is.

I noticed this as well. Android pay is rock solid, Apple Pay required a few tries to work right.

It could just be an implementation detail of the Tube's readers. Or it could be the case on the phone, or it could actually be the phone, but there was a difference.

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