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Five minute guide to better typography

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Re: Five minute guide to better typography

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I read Josef Albers' Interaction of Color years ago and I've also bought the iPad app. I've been disappointed by both. The problem is that "experiential" teaching without any scientific explanation is inadequate and misleading. Teaching part is where you explain the students - why . It is perhaps the approach in art colleges where rigorous science doesn't matter. The problem stems when Josef Albers made scientific cl…

You’re approaching the book the wrong way. The original came with a big pile of colored papers. You are supposed to spend dozens of hours over the course of months doing careful visual study of various arrangements of them. If you don’t do the exercises in the book you’re not going to get much out of it. Albers is not dogmatic. His purpose is not to prescribe a particular style or method. This is not a recipe book. H…

I know what you're saying - I've done a few of his exercises and using the iPad app makes that very easy to do. Literally, simulates the same experience of getting the $200 edition with all the color plates. Drag a shape over another and see the effect.

Color is relative. Got it. What else does it offer?

>> The book is not supposed to be about “scientific progress”. It’s supposed to be a pedagogical tool aimed at artists. If you want a technical explanation, you are looking at the wrong book.

I understand and I wish that was the case! However, the popularity of it and its fame as a text book (see Amazon reviews) combined with his claims of explaining how brain perceives color - indicates that it is used as THE color theory reference. I have a problem with that.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

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post #98

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That's your guide to better typography for OSX users. Then we also have folks using Windows and Linux that doesn't ship with Helvetica. Worth knowing!

I'm always sad to see people say things like "Helvetica and you're done!" There are so many beautiful different fonts to use... imagine if everything was Helvetica? Boring :(

Helvetica and its derivatives are beautiful, they're not boring.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

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post #102

Helvetica and you're done. ^ My one sentence guide to better typography.

Using Helvetica doesn't magically increase readability.

That really depends on what you're starting with.

My one-liner didn't go into the care that this article went into, I couldn't do the topic justice.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

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post #98

Helvetica and you're done. ^ My one sentence guide to better typography.

That's your guide to better typography for OSX users. Then we also have folks using Windows and Linux that doesn't ship with Helvetica. Worth knowing!

I should of said Helvetica-derivatives.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

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post #23

If it's that simple, why can't we just let some ML application do typography for us?

It's such an easy task that a set of rules are totally sufficient - no need to throw ML at it.

In fact, typography is a solved problem since Donald Knuth gave us TeX in the 80s.

The problem isn't typography. It's people not caring enough, or forgetting and then repeating history.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re approaching the book the wrong way. The original came with a big pile of colored papers. You are supposed to spend dozens of hours over the course of months doing careful visual study of various arrangements of them. If you don’t do the exercises in the book you’re not going to get much out of it. Albers is not dogmatic. His purpose is not to prescribe a particular style or method. This is not a recipe book. H…

I know what you're saying - I've done a few of his exercises and using the iPad app makes that very easy to do. Literally, simulates the same experience of getting the $200 edition with all the color plates. Drag a shape over another and see the effect. Color is relative. Got it. What else does it offer? >> The book is not supposed to be about “scientific progress”. It’s supposed to be a pedagogical tool aimed at art…

> indicates that it is used as THE color theory reference

That’s just not true though. These Amazon reviewers apparently have no idea what they’re talking about. People looking for color science books, or even for dogmatic advice about how to make color combinations (most of which is bullshit, but anyway ...) have many other books to study.

Your criticism is kind of like judging a book about meditation techniques for being neither an answer to all of your life’s problems (despite Amazon reviews claiming so!) nor a complete psychology textbook.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

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post #34

It's a quest of mine to understand this subject mathematically. I'm convinced that typography is an exact science, it's just easier to use intuition than find the formulae that govern it. Like catching a baseball versus understanding gravity and drag. For example, when aligning that header, they're moving the leftmost pixels into alignment with the body's leftmost pixels. The correct state is well-defined, it's just…

>It's a quest of mine to understand this subject mathematically.

Good luck. Computer science-types try to do this all the time with music, and it always falls flat.

Typography/visual aesthetics has to be just as hard or harder, considering it's not exactly a linear function underlying visual perception - just take a look at all the different types of optical illusions that exist.

Re: Five minute guide to better typography

#130

I have persistently encountered the same problem in this space. Most people I've worked with write documents using the last formatted document they made as a template for the next. Tracing back through their history of documents you find that they are all based off one person who decided it was a good idea to mix fonts and colours of headings, and mess around with font sizes and then save it all as default heading an…

Consistent styles might be a battle you could win, but you're mental if you think people are going to learn LaTeX.

Even the consistent style part might take quite a bit of effort. I would be happy already if I could make a certain kind of person drop ClipArt and WordArt, and I don't see this ever happening...
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