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Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

The laptop wouldn't become inaccessible, the account would. You could log in with a different account.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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What do you think majority of the users will do with those $1k-$2k devices—desoldering storage or looking at the pictures of cats and kids? The CPU or RAM specs alone don't tell much how well the device will perform.

But who are the majority of users here? If all the developers betrayed by latest Apple's MBP lineup migrate to a new platform, suddenly 'majority' starts to care about number of cores and upgradable memory. But that is not likely to happen, given the dumbed-down specs and OS.

Last I heard new MBS were doing just fine. Do not confuse very local minority with all. And "betrayed"? Apple did not promise anything to anybody.

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Previously everything of mine went through Google. Email, phone, phone number, search, etc. I've migrated everything away (except Google Voice) for this very reason. My life would have came to a grinding halt if they banned me, and I couldn't even email them about it.

What was your gmail alternative? I tried to switch everything to Lavabit, but then a month later the Snowden thing happened...that didn't last (and I'm still out all that money)

Fastmail has been wonderful for me.

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Interesting that there is no reference to targeting developers/coding at all for this device. Seems targeted at creatives with the Pen and Lightroom/etc on it. Other than that, none of the example apps it can support seem to me to really require "high performance" at all. Which is too bad, because it's a pretty device. Just seems like it's in a weird uncanny valley where it's probably way too much horsepower for most…

Personally I'd love to have a dev Chromebook. The software stack running on it is second to none. Even the BIOS is light-years ahead any Windows/Linux box. As for OSX I'm not familiar with the boot process.

The BIOS of a system has not once ever factored into my decision making about a tech purchase. Please elaborate...?

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

#126

I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

Thanks for bringing that up. However, te truth is often a bit more nuanced (although it doesn't make for as good headlines).

Dissecting your three examples.

In the first case, (and based on their own statements) those people were buying up phones by the hundreds, shipping them to a single physical address and then scalping over the internet.

It's basically fraud. So yes, they probably got picked up by an automated algorithm that looks for hijacking/CC fraud or bot-nets.

From public statements though, I believe most of them got their accounts back when they reached out to confirm they were real people and not some fraud bot-net. It's still technically violation of their ToS, but I won't comment on that part.

The second case I'm not directly familiar with, and there's no public statements so I won't say anything further.

In the third case, the affected customer made a public statement afterwards:

https://twitter.com/salilstatistics/status/89986397181723852...

I can't comment any further than what's been said publicly except on general principles 1. Google does a lot of things to protect users from external attacks, everything I've seen seems to indicate they really do care about users, and 2. There are pretty clear ways to get back into your account should anything happen (https://accounts.google.com/signin/recovery is your one-stop shop), and 3. The user doesn't carry any ill-will towards Google once he realised what actually happened.

(Disclaimer: I work for Google, but the above statements are my own and do not reflect those of my employees).

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yep. However you cannot code locally on your laptop at google. So you end up either using a web based IDE or just using the desktop workstation they give you (locally, ssh, or VNC).

Like, no one can? That seems weirdly restrictive. Is it for security reasons?

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#128
I bought an ASUS c302 Chromebook for $500 earlier this year, and somehow this doesn't seem that different. More CPU/RAM (does this matter on a chromebook), and maybe a pen. The c302 has a pretty high res display, does the flip thing and is a touch screen, runs all day, and boots in a couple seconds. The case feels a bit flimsy, but withstood the rigors of my 6yo twins wrestling over it on a road trip to play the next netflix show...

..which btw is a great consumer feature. Being able to run Android Netflix on a laptop and download shows in offline mode.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

#129

I'm not sure why Google tries to make a really expensive version of their Chromebooks . If this came out before the new iPad Pro's and Surface laptops it might be compelling to buy. But, if I want a walled garden experience I would choose an iPad Pro. And if I want a real keyboard with a stylus there is the Surface Book and many others. It is even competing with the lower end Chromebooks due to the price. It would be…

The Surface Book is a good $500 more expensive, significantly thicker, and significantly heavier. It's also prone to hinge flakiness with the overly clever electronic release mechanism. You get the nvidia GPU option if you want it, though. ipad pro is an interesting comparison but it's not just "walled or not" it's also "windowed vs. fullscreen" as the chromebook is a full windowed systems, for better or worse. A fix…

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