Is there a greater money grab than Transformers?
Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
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Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
> So they have to make movies that appeal to the global lowest common denominator No, they think that they have to do this, but they are demonstrably wrong, as proven by e.g. the "surprise" success of a movie like "Get Out" (which is really excellent, BTW) which breaks all of those rules and makes a ton of money because people can still recognize a good movie even though Hollywood generally can't.
That movie illustrates my point, though. Domestic box office for Get Out was $175m with foreign receipts coming in at just $77m. Compare that to Guardians of the Galaxy , with domestic box office of $333m and foreign box office of $440m. They made more money outside the US than in, with China topping the totals. Sure, you can still make money with a movie aimed at the domestic audience, but you can make a lot more mo…
Yes, but you have to look at ROI, not gross receipts. GotG cost $232M to make. Get Out cost $4.5M, so its ROI was about 20x better than GotG.
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#123Hollywood movies are getting objectively worse, and there's a good reason for it. The market is global now - the North American box office is just a vehicle for pricing deals when the international rights are sold. So they have to make movies that appeal to the global lowest common denominator. No witty or understated dialog. No cultural signifiers that might be missed by someone from another culture. All the money a…
We also act as if older movies are on whole universally and objectively better than they are now - which they're not - because of the lens of time, we don't remember the 20 stinkers released every year, only the big blockbuster movies that impressed everyone - as an infrequent movie goer - I'd say movies on whole, are about as good as they ever were.
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
That movie illustrates my point, though. Domestic box office for Get Out was $175m with foreign receipts coming in at just $77m. Compare that to Guardians of the Galaxy , with domestic box office of $333m and foreign box office of $440m. They made more money outside the US than in, with China topping the totals. Sure, you can still make money with a movie aimed at the domestic audience, but you can make a lot more mo…
Yes, but you have to look at ROI, not gross receipts. GotG cost $232M to make. Get Out cost $4.5M, so its ROI was about 20x better than GotG.
Get Out is the exception that proves the rule. It is a smart low budget movie that had good box office numbers, but there are dozens of good movies released this year that will not generate anything like that revenue. How about Columbus, Step, The Big Sick... that's just relatively recent ones I can pick off the list, there are a lot more.
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#125Georg Rockall-Schmidt released a fine video on essentially the same subject, yesterday: https://youtu.be/VVdh6-4Hgys
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there such a pressure to buy snacks ? 2h without eating doesn’t feel so difficult.
Or bring snacks from home (or a convienence store which is a bargain compared to a theatre)
>Or bring snacks from home (or a convienence store which is a bargain compared to a theatre)
Movie theaters almost universally do not allow outside food or drinks, so that isn't really an option. But these days if I ever go to a movie I pretty much exclusively go to a dine-in theater(alamo drafthouse, studio move grill, etc) because at least there I'm getting decent food instead of a paying $20 for tub of popcorn and soda that cost them probably less than a dollar, not to mention they have comfy recliners instead of those awful padded seats most theaters have.
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#127Rotten Tomatoes is a bad system because it's binary - ie thumbs up/down.
Which means a 'consistently good' film can get almost all thumbs up - even if it's not that-that good.
Whereas an unevenly good films, with pangs of genius can get not so many thumbs up.
It tends to skew way up or down.
Metacritic I think is much better.
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#128Hollywood movies are getting objectively worse, and there's a good reason for it. The market is global now - the North American box office is just a vehicle for pricing deals when the international rights are sold. So they have to make movies that appeal to the global lowest common denominator. No witty or understated dialog. No cultural signifiers that might be missed by someone from another culture. All the money a…
We also act as if older movies are on whole universally and objectively better than they are now - which they're not - because of the lens of time, we don't remember the 20 stinkers released every year, only the big blockbuster movies that impressed everyone - as an infrequent movie goer - I'd say movies on whole, are about as good as they ever were.
"which they're not "
Many of them are though.
If you ever get a chance to study some 'old film's in Uni or whatever, it's pretty interesting.
A lot oldies can seem a little bland to us, but they're like novels - they are much richer than we grasp at first glance.
Also there is context.
Best example would be Charlie Chaplin. I mean, it can seem ridiculous ... but really it's genius.
Pacing and language has changed so much especially - we have such short attention spans these days ...
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#129Although RT tends to produce false positives for me, it is a reasonably reliable filter. If Hollywood is suffering, I'd look to the quality of its product. For example, marvel civil war is a false positive (for me). When I watch it, I can't get past the clipped, contrived dialogue, close-ups on faces, ham-fisted plots, inconceivably stupid action, schizophrenic scene changes, plastic cgi, and awkward obviously demogr…
It sounds like you've been going to the wrong movies, at least for your tastes. You seem to be exclusively seeing blockbusters. Maybe you'd prefer smaller, less action-focused films.
My filter: avoid all super hero movies.
Re: Is Rotten Tomatoes Killing the Movie Industry? No, Bad Movies Are
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
It sounds like you've been going to the wrong movies, at least for your tastes. You seem to be exclusively seeing blockbusters. Maybe you'd prefer smaller, less action-focused films.
Eh, I love a good action movie, but it's hard to get into movies that you can't believe. I watched a very low rated one from the 80s the other day ( https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blood_of_heroes/ ), and while it had very little plot, and the production value was incredibly low compared to recent movies, and just generally wasn't a very good movie, I enjoyed it more than the vast majority of very expensive recent b…
Those are called dramas.