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Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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It's telling that space, electricity generation, crispr, self-driving cars, and this are thought of as 'non tech', but messaging apps and phones are.

It seems that "tech" has come to be a colloquialism for "digital".

I think “tech” is short for “information technology”, a term introduced almost six decades ago: https://hbr.org/1958/11/management-in-the-1980s

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It is not that surprising given that the most apparent technological advance in our lifetime has been the internet. I would be curious to see what "technology" was a colloquialism for different periods in time. My suspicion is that it would refer to the most impactful and visible innovations of that time.

Well, the word comes from the ancient Greek "τέχνη" (techne) which meant "craft" -- it basically meant creating things in the real world rather than "ἐπιστήμη" (episteme) which meant abstract knowledge, which is what philosophers were after.

But the epistomology of a word does not determine its meaning. Otherwise the art versus craft debate would be difficult to apply with its original meanings.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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It seems that "tech" has come to be a colloquialism for "digital".

It is not that surprising given that the most apparent technological advance in our lifetime has been the internet. I would be curious to see what "technology" was a colloquialism for different periods in time. My suspicion is that it would refer to the most impactful and visible innovations of that time.

Wasn't agriculture the first technology?

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Slaughterhouses and packaged meat are a pretty recent invention, certainly not one we’ve evolved with over thousands of generations. Is it really more natural to open a cellophane package of ground meat that comes from who knows how many animals?

What makes you think slaughter houses were needed? That just made things more "efficient". Humans and our ancestors have been eating meat since we have been a species.

Some of the things done in order to achieve efficiency has tangible consequences on the healthiness of the food. For instance cramming many animals in a very small space (e.g. in poultry farming) increases chances of contagious diseases developing. Industry is trying to compensate using antibiotics, but that has issues also.

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I love how highly, highly processed foods are suddenly A-OK to many people here once it's a fake meat product. Whatever happened to the concept of, "Eat real food?" Full Ingredient List: >Water, Textured Wheat Protein, Coconut Oil, Potato Protein, Natural Flavors, 2% or less of: Leghemoglobin (soy), Yeast Extract, Salt, Soy Protein Isolate, Konjac Gum, Xanthan Gum, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Zinc, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Ribo…

If fake meats had come first and animal meats were just now coming to market, people would make similar arguments about health effects... and they'd be warranted. With animal meat, one has to worry about salmonella, e. coli, staph, and other pathogens. These food-borne pathogens kill about 5,000 Americans a year and make millions sick.[1] Also, cooking meat creates carcinogens.[2] If fake meats were as dangerous as t…

With animal meat, one has to worry about salmonella, e. coli...

You have to worry about that with vegetables as well. Certainly here in Sweden the nr 1 source of food borne salmonella is spinach, arugula and similar leafy greens.

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What a dumb idea to base one's argument regarding these things on price. As a new tech it will cost a lot (like computers once did, now you can get one for $5), but the price will eventually go down. Perhaps my generation won't enjoy fake meat like a real steak just because of the idea, but younger people won't mind. Personally, I'll take anything that can stop killing all those animals to then throw away huge quanti…

Well the Impossible CEO has a good point in that if we can grow tissues on demand in a reliable and efficient process the first use will not be for food but for healthcare. Why grow quarter pounders when you could save lives and grow organs?

The body is very picky about what kind of tissue it will accept as-its-own, entirely different level of quality required. Our digestive system is not at all as sensitive. We will probably get to lab-grown organs (it is actively researched), but creating artifical meat for eating is easier to do first.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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It's great but if it really works, isn't there a concern about the existence of our beloved domestic animals? All domestic cattle nowadays descends from the Auroch, which is extinct. The Auroch disappeared because we did not need it as it was. It was hunted down as tend to be all large animals that can not be domesticated. If we don't need cows, pigs, sheep and whatnot, isn't there a risk they will fade away? When we…

they'll be fine. they'll simply continue to evolve without us.

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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That they and their families will never eat. This is just like when the British Parliament approved GMOs in the UK and on the same day officially forbid GMO foods from being served in the Parliament restaurant. BTW I know the guy who was the head of the team who invented the GMO technology. He and his family and relatives only eat the cleanest, best quality ORGANIC food they can find.

ORGANIC is not same as NON-GMO

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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It's great but if it really works, isn't there a concern about the existence of our beloved domestic animals? All domestic cattle nowadays descends from the Auroch, which is extinct. The Auroch disappeared because we did not need it as it was. It was hunted down as tend to be all large animals that can not be domesticated. If we don't need cows, pigs, sheep and whatnot, isn't there a risk they will fade away? When we…

they'll be fine. they'll simply continue to evolve without us.

If we leave them enough habitat. But why would we if we don't need them?

Re: Billionaires and big ag are joining venture investors to fund lab-grown meat

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they'll be fine. they'll simply continue to evolve without us.

If we leave them enough habitat. But why would we if we don't need them?

I believe that may have been a subtle natural selection joke.
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