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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by the_common_man »

blfr wrote: post #65

If you like Proton features and want to move away from Gmail, consider Mailpile[1]. It's almost ready, there's a release candidate and packages for Debian/Ubuntu; it offers to protect your data with a master password like Proton; it supports GPG which with all its problems is still the way to encrypt your emails; and you can run it on your own server. Best of all it's open source and written in Python. You can know e…

There is also cloudron.io. It has imap/smtp/sieve/catch-all/relaying/aliases/tagging/rest api. Fairly complete. https://cloudron.io/documentation/email/

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by olegkikin »

dsacco wrote: post #30
olegkikin wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's close to being anonymous though. If I give you a random bitcoin address, what are the odds you can identify the owner of it? It's very close to zero.

In practice? The odds are pretty likely. Most people have poor opsec, and you can uniquely identify anyone with fewer than 33 bits of data.

Let's test your claim. Here's a transaction between many addresses. How many can you identify?

https://blockchain.info/tx/5e3f8e728e7a9c14231806de537ae6177...

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by the_common_man »

Accacin wrote: post #85
MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I've not seen anyone else talking about mailbox.org. I've been using them for a while after moving away from Fastmail and I'm loving it. Cheap and they're recommeded by https://www.privacytools.io/ .

Why did you move out from fastmail? They are very clear about their privacy policy.

(Also who runs privacytools.io? Is he/she reputable?)

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by ringaroundthetx »

thinbeige wrote: post #79
ringaroundthetx wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

everyone that pays with bitcoin now that everything is cheaper? yeah it goes counter to all of the anti-deflationary schools of economics, but when have economists ever gotten actual human behavior right?

Nobody does. And this is the problem with having no inflation. Every economy needs a slight inflation, otherwise people stop consuming, instead save all their money and it gets worse => deflation. Bitcoin equals gold, nobody uses Bitcoin to consume anything. I don't know which human behavior you refer to.

Meanwhile the bitcoin transaction bandwidth is at max capacity and is frequently at max capacity as the price rises.

People are transacting, and its not all to exchanges.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by tajen »

Accacin wrote: post #85
MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I've not seen anyone else talking about mailbox.org. I've been using them for a while after moving away from Fastmail and I'm loving it. Cheap and they're recommeded by https://www.privacytools.io/ .

Why did you switch away from Fastmail? I'm there.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by Matt3o12_ »

sdotsen wrote: post #50
blunte wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I expect that's not the point he was trying to make. I believe he/she was stating their surprise that bitcoin was not a payment option back then. "Seriously."

No the point is it stopped him from using/trying the service. If he really was interested he would've found an alternative payment solution

The point was he wanted to test a service which does not ask him for his billing address, CC info and other stuff, which not only completely deanonymize him, he would also have to trust them to store this information safely (which you cannot really expect any company to do).

So in a way, his test was completed (no I don’t want to use this service) before he was even able to test their product.

Just imagine you want to test the food of the newly opened restaurant downstairs. Before you actually get to test the meal, have been treated like shit. Sure, you could have stayed to try the food, but you have already decided that it is not worth it.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by GigabyteCoin »

>"You can now get secure email anonymously"

How exactly... by paying with Bitcoin?

And this is coming from a security-conscious company?

Unless I mined the Bitcoins myself, and never spent the remaining 12.45 BTC that I mined (after presumably spending 0.05 BTC on protonmail)... it is far from "Anonymous".

If they started accepting Zcash, however...

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by angry-hacker »

MollyR wrote: post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

Do you have clients switching because of memo saga?

I like it, but by knowing how difficult it is for businesses to switch to new tools, I'm surprised.

All the best of course, with or without the memo, one cannot trust the once cute company wanting to change the world.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by orthecreedence »

txmx2000 wrote: post #56

Disappointed that there's no mention of a discount. Cryptocurrency payments will save them a lot of money. Web/email hosting is an industry with a high risk if fraud.

> Cryptocurrency payments will save them a lot of money

...until they convert it to cash?

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Post by vopi »

psy-q wrote: post #97
Accacin wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've not seen anyone else talking about mailbox.org. I've been using them for a while after moving away from Fastmail and I'm loving it. Cheap and they're recommeded by https://www.privacytools.io/ .

I've been with them for over a year now as well and not a single issue. The interface is a bit cumbersome in some ways, it's a customized OpenXchange, so some mailbox.org-specific settings are done outside of the rest of the more general OpenXchange settings. What you get with mailbox.org that you don't get with ProtonMail: * IMAP and SMTP * Support for hardware 2FA dongles like Yubikey * Ability to use your own GPG…

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