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Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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Isn’t there a way to get a free beta version? I got an image once for Virtual Box.

Why would you want to? Windows is for corporates putting spreadsheets in front of coin counters. For everything else there is Linux (or FreeBSD), which is probably why Micro$oft is porting SQL server to it.

Are you being facetious? It seems like you are. I'm 99% sure you have to be, but some people do think and write like that.

Notably the cringeworthy second paragraph and substituting $ for s like this is Slashdot in the 00s.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.

What happened? Did apple simultaneously fire all of it's hardware team along with it's QA dept? (we know the 2nd one happened). I love apple, but it feels like they have a CEO who's running it in "latter years" mode. Zero risk, minimize cost everywhere, maximize profit even if it results in absurd cash piles... This is what you get when bean counters run tech companies.

I have to agree. Mac has for years now felt like a redheaded stepchild at Apple, and the loss of the dedicated Mac development team at Apple sent the message loud and clear: Tim Cook doesn't give a fuck about the Mac.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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I really hope they make WSL's /home/. symlink to /mnt/c/users/. by default. What's the point of having a separate filesystem and home directory? I want native POSIX in Windows. The WSL implementation feels like... not that.

Just put symlinks to the relevant subfolders of /mnt/c/users/... in /home/..., and you can barely tell. I hardly touch /mnt/c.

I like having separate filesystems so I can have both Windows and Linux versions of some things in the "same" place but not interfering.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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finally I can remove the win32 specific code from all the open source software I maintain not sure that was what Microsoft was going for though...

Unless you're going to force your users to install WSL up front(which is a pretty poor first contact) I think you might be better served by keeping it around.

Honestly, Windows users should be accomodated for as little as possible. I don't want to write my software once for 12 operating systems and once again for one. WSL is the only reason my software runs on their shitty OS at all.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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Which laptop manufactures have you found to be as reliable and well put together as macbooks? I haven't had too much luck with dells or lenovos.

I highly recommend Samsung ATIV Book 9. In my opinion they are better than macbooks. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06X19MJZZ/ref=psdc_13896615011_t3...

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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.

What happened? Did apple simultaneously fire all of it's hardware team along with it's QA dept? (we know the 2nd one happened). I love apple, but it feels like they have a CEO who's running it in "latter years" mode. Zero risk, minimize cost everywhere, maximize profit even if it results in absurd cash piles... This is what you get when bean counters run tech companies.

Zero risk? I wish they were more cautious and orthodox sometimes. Vide Mac Pro, Final Cut Pro X, TouchBar. Just give me a faster version of the previous one, don't reinvent every category every decade or so. Because sometimes they manage to, but others they just screw up (like everyone else).

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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I've been using this for back-end dev since 14.04 distro (lastest update is xenial). Quite stable and very fast, no emulator or vm come close to WSL. Best gift from MS to devs after VS.

Does using the system change power consumption / battery life?

Not in a noticeable way. I'm sure there isn't much extra power usage.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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It works great for me. Like others have mentioned, it's not an emulator, so I don't feel sandboxed using it. The main downside is one of the caveats they mention: "Linux files are NOT accessible from Windows." Hopefully they can fix this in the future.

Since you have to uninstall and reinstall WSL to upgrade it, it makes more sense to store your files on the Windows file system and symlink them into your home directory.

I just cd to my windows home and work there.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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It's not really an emulator. It's more like a virtual machine that runs Linux in the background and lets you use the commands. You can install Ubuntu with it and it's officially supported. If it didn't work, I'm sure Ubuntu wouldn't run.

Thanks for the clarification. I guess I'm having a hard time classifying it, since you can use an actual VM but this seems like something less than that.

Correct, it's not a virtual machine at all. It is a reimplementation of the Linux kernel's API. Most userspace Linux programs run as normal and can't tell that the system calls they do aren't handled by the Linux kernel.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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Which laptop manufactures have you found to be as reliable and well put together as macbooks? I haven't had too much luck with dells or lenovos.

Surface Book and Surface Laptop are quite good.

+1 on Surface Book. Great build quality, good dev machine and decent gaming laptop as well.
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