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Re: India will ban driverless cars in order to protect jobs

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Post by egypturnash » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 9:22 PM UTC

jimmywanger wrote: post #91

egypturnash wrote: post #86

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Or you just start taxing corporations and rich people again. Some stupidly huge percentage of dollars are just sitting in their coffers doing nothing.

Corporations and rich people have ways (completely legal) to get around taxes. If the tax burden becomes too onerous, they'll just move residences and/or stop doing business in your country. You can see this in one of the founders of Facebook - he renounced his US citizenship, because of the onerous tax burdens. ( https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/a-facebook-founder... ) It's foolish to just say "we should ta…

We just have to start guillotining them again, I guess. You need a good revolution once every generation or three to keep capital scared.

Re: India will ban driverless cars in order to protect jobs

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Post by jimmywanger » Wed, Jul 26, 2017, 4:32 AM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #121

jimmywanger wrote: post #91

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Corporations and rich people have ways (completely legal) to get around taxes. If the tax burden becomes too onerous, they'll just move residences and/or stop doing business in your country. You can see this in one of the founders of Facebook - he renounced his US citizenship, because of the onerous tax burdens. ( https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/a-facebook-founder... ) It's foolish to just say "we should ta…

We just have to start guillotining them again, I guess. You need a good revolution once every generation or three to keep capital scared.

Did you not see my previous comment about capital flight?

This is not the middle ages anymore, where peoples' riches are tied up in real estate and machinery. Immovable capital.

Capital is fluid these days. If you start guillotining people for absolutely nothing except being rich (which is what you're insinuating) they'll just leave and take all the capital and productive capacity with them. See Venezuela.

Re: India will ban driverless cars in order to protect jobs

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Post by ShirsenduK » Wed, Jul 26, 2017, 10:58 AM UTC

praving5 wrote: post #118

ShirsenduK wrote: post #88

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Why do you need generic AI to solve driving? Driving is a system of visual recognition followed by path planning. You see what is on the road and then decide acceleration, brake and steering angle. Enlighten me if there is anything more to driving. As for object detection in an image, AI is more accurate than an human today.

On the drawing board and slides, it would definitely work. No doubts about that!!! Keep me informed when you have a driverless car on the road and you are worry-free to send your kid or any other loved one in it.

Will take 10 years but will happen. My kid won't need a driving license!

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Post by tspike » Sat, Jul 29, 2017, 5:18 AM UTC

taneq wrote: post #106

tspike wrote: post #98

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Strictly inferior by one metric. There are other factors to optimize for, e.g. rate of environmental destruction, median life satisfaction, social cohesiveness, breadth of knowledge vs specialization.

So you're on the teaspoon side of the debate? (Or at least, you're saying that it's nuanced and that some nuances do favour the teaspoon side.)

Yes, the latter- you can take either side ad absurdum, though the teaspoon side is easier to mischaracterize. Single-variable optimization is easy; multivariate is much harder especially when wetware is involved.