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As an average user, how do I know which is which? How can I tell whether .ABCXYZ is competently run and trustworthy? gTLDs & ccTLDs have to be some of the worst ideas in Internet history.
ccTLDs (Country Codes) are always two letters. gTLDs aren't. The gTLDs have a pretty strict ICANN contract they have to follow; ccTLDs are looser.
Taking control of all .io domains with a targeted registration
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Re: Taking control of all .io domains with a targeted registration
#122Re: Taking control of all .io domains with a targeted registration
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Yes. It does. Someone noticed that the 4 of the 7 hostnames that were assigned for authoritative names servers for .IO were available for registration. They registered them, and started receiving DNS lookups for .IO hosts from what appears to be actual internet users. Since the user had 4 or the 7, its possible that the majority of DNS lookups for .IO hosts would be sent and answer by the author's systems. The author…
>HTTPS + HSTS would prevent the author from spoofing the DNS of that those sites and sending them to a server over HTTP thus avoiding the certificate errors. I'm confused, how would that help? Could the attacker (the author, in this case) not get a valid https certificate for these domains, returning spoofed DNS responses when the CA goes to validate it?
Re: Taking control of all .io domains with a targeted registration
#124Considering there are a grand total of 2500 people in the BIOT, all of whom are British or American military personnel, it might not be a great idea to route a good chunk of the world's tech traffic through them. The disparity between how important the .io TLD is for the Internet and how few resources must go to running it is pretty appalling.
"route"? That's not how DNS works.
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#125That's amazing! Nice find, man!
The exclamation marks? The lack of pretending to contribute to the conversation?
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#126Two of the guys at Cloudflare diagnosed it for me: https://twitter.com/xxdesmus/status/855858441289572353
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
>HTTPS + HSTS would prevent the author from spoofing the DNS of that those sites and sending them to a server over HTTP thus avoiding the certificate errors. I'm confused, how would that help? Could the attacker (the author, in this case) not get a valid https certificate for these domains, returning spoofed DNS responses when the CA goes to validate it?
Depends, but for DV certificates, most likely. Certificate Transparency could/would help alert the original site if that was the case.
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I own an .IO domain. Do I deserve to have fake LetsEncrypt certs issued against me and my domain hijacked because some engineer forgot to remove some critical NS records or forgot to register some aliases? Responsible disclosure cat is responsible!
"Responsible disclosure" is a coercive term. It implies that it's irresponsible to do anything else. "Coordinated disclosure" is far better. That said, coordinated disclosure is the neighborly thing to do, but it's by no means a moral obligation. It would be perfectly fine for the author to tweet about it, for example.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
>HTTPS + HSTS would prevent the author from spoofing the DNS of that those sites and sending them to a server over HTTP thus avoiding the certificate errors. I'm confused, how would that help? Could the attacker (the author, in this case) not get a valid https certificate for these domains, returning spoofed DNS responses when the CA goes to validate it?
the attacker MITM TLS has to present a certificate for the spoofed domain that was signed by a Certificate Authority the victim's browser trusts
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I'm one of the unlucky few that were affected by this (I own .ch). One of my site user's reported that the website is inaccessible on Friday. I went to check and observed the DNS changing. Then went to check Route 53 status page[2] in which I learn that this is not specific to my site. The behavior is exactly the same as what is described in the SWITCH report[1]. Luckily that I have HSTS on my site, so the damage is…
We were also affected by this on a major e-commerce site. It was a .se domain. Their post mortem isn't really convincing ( https://news.gandi.net/en/2017/07/report-on-july-7-2017-inci... ) since they do not state what really happened and how it can be prevented again. I issued a support ticket to aws today to see what measures can be taken, otherwise we might need to change registrar.