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Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

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Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

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The Volt is a more practical competitor to the Model 3, which is part of why I dropped my model 3 reservation for a 2017. Other reasons include a lackluster test drive of a Model S and my increasing skepticism of Tesla's practices as a company (aggressively selling cars before adding new features at a completely random cadence but claiming model years are unnecessary, promises like AP2 parity, QC failures at 20k cars…

The volt is a great car, just wish they made a cool looking one.

The Gen 2 looks pretty modern. I don't know if it qualifies as cool (I think it does but I bought it already so I'm biased), but it's pleasant to look at and not-Aztec-like the way the Gen 1 was.

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

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https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-s/2017/cost-to-own/ https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/s-class/2017/cost-to-o... 2017 Tesla Model S Average Price Paid $86,200 2017 Mercedes-Benz S-Class Average Price Paid $98,958 Which is just under 15%.

That's misleading. For the S class: "Based on S 550e Plug-In Hybrid with options". As soon as you select any other model: * S550 - $108,506 * S63 - $196,496 * S65 - $241,129 * others - $180K, $230K. So the S-Class is "for the base model" but using it as a litmus for the S class range is no different to only looking at the Model S 60, at $68K.

"April 16th, 2017 will be the last day to order the Model S 60 and 60D."

https://electrek.co/2017/03/17/tesla-discontinuing-model-s-6...

So, the S 60 does not exist anymore. Further the other models are not electric cars.

"Like the W221 S500, the W222 S-Class will be powered by a more powerful twin-turbo V8 producing 455 hp (339 kW) while the S600 will carry a twin-turbo V12. There is also a diesel-powered S350 BlueTEC version, a hybrid S400 with a 20-kilowatt electric motor and 306 hp (228 kW) V6 engine, a diesel-electric hybrid S300 BlueTEC. A S500 Plug-in Hybrid was later introduced at the Frankfurt Motor Show (IAA) with a market release of 2014 and claimed a 3 litres/100 km mileage, a CO2 rating of 69 g/km and up to 30 km of emissions free driving. The S500 Plug-In hybrid is fitted with a 329 hp (245 kW) 3-litre V6 and an 80-kilowatt electric motor.[25][26] AMG fettered S63 (V8 bi-turbo) and S65 (V12 bi-turbo) LWB sedans are also on offer. All S-Class models will come with a 7-speed automatic transmission.[27]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_S-Class

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

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Or you know they just introduced a new model...

EU sales show very different trends. http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/Porsche/Pors... January 2016: 227 vs 2017: 660

Yeah, because it takes time to get the cars to the US-
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