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Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by Gatsky »

whisdol wrote: post #36

They seem to avoid mentioning the version of Android they are running - the specs only say "Android". I'd like to be exited about this, but this uncertainty combined with the fact that their security personnel is a team of dogs[1] makes it quite hard for me. [1] https://www.essential.com/about

Not sure there is an issue here... I think it's just a joke about 'physical security' of the premises.

Most team pages I've seen don't specifically identify people working on infosec aspects of the product. That could be an attack vector if you're really being paranoid.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by jvzr »

zmix wrote: post #102

I want: - 4 buttons on the finger's side, one jogwheel/microswitch at the thumb. Buttons are configurable/contextual. Of course, also touch-screen - expandable flash - best mobile camera to date - Android (no bloat, unlocked, easily rootable) - no bezel - great battery - size of Xperia Compact Z3 but thinner - withstands rain and beach - upperclass CPU/GFX/RAM/Flash

“Et cent balles et un mars,” as we delicately put it in France.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by samfisher83 »

They are selling the phone for 700 dollars.

700 dollars for a phone? You can get a s8, HTC, or LG for cheaper with the promotions they are running and those companies have a track record for making phones. They could have been like One plus one and produced a high end phone ~400 bucks. For 700 dollars this will have a hard time getting traction.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by peeters »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #110
peeters wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does it matter? If a website for a new router only supported Internet Explorer, I definitely would know either I'm not their target market, or they know nothing about that market, or they don't care.

I would argue that the percentage of people who care about websites working with JavaScript disabled is so low that no hardware company considers them a target market

I wasn't saying that no JS support is hurting them. I was objecting to the notion that them being separate teams is relevant. It's perfectly reasonable to judge a product by how it is marketed.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by [deleted] »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #110
peeters wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does it matter? If a website for a new router only supported Internet Explorer, I definitely would know either I'm not their target market, or they know nothing about that market, or they don't care.

I would argue that the percentage of people who care about websites working with JavaScript disabled is so low that no hardware company considers them a target market

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Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by pawadu »

yeukhon wrote: post #111
jjoonathan wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. For a platform that struggles with security, listing a security team entirely composed of dogs comes across as the equivalent of "I drive better drunk!". One has to wonder whether it was intended as a joke or as a dismissal, and in both cases it evidences an alarming attitude towards a very serious problem. EDIT: If there were humans on that team in addition to the dogs, I'd not be nearly so upset.

Well professionally I'd like a human photo. If this were a shy photo, I would hope for not a cute puppy photo, but a human animated icon. There is a bit I called professional prsentation vs being cute, but this is a startup and it's someone else's company.

or you could just accept that this a cute way to present the office dog, and get on with your life...

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by yeukhon »

Gatsky wrote: post #121
whisdol wrote: post #36

They seem to avoid mentioning the version of Android they are running - the specs only say "Android". I'd like to be exited about this, but this uncertainty combined with the fact that their security personnel is a team of dogs[1] makes it quite hard for me. [1] https://www.essential.com/about

Not sure there is an issue here... I think it's just a joke about 'physical security' of the premises. Most team pages I've seen don't specifically identify people working on infosec aspects of the product. That could be an attack vector if you're really being paranoid.

That's a myth. If someone were to attack your infosec engineers physically or virtually you need to build your company from the moon because only nation states and the 1% richest would be able to afford the ride there. If someone were to do social engineering well it will be done, regardless of title. :)

No seriously I bet you this is just a blunt humor attempt. Someone thought it was cute. Those who prefer to remain hidden from camera just don't want to be seen on the Internet. I probably should go on LinkedIn and look for someone with security title working for this conpany, I might be right.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by neivin »

ulfw wrote: post #75
alexandersingh wrote: post #63

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The high-end smartphone market is dominated by Apple, with Samsung a very distant second.

And Essential is going to change that and get more market share than Samsung or even Apple? Please. There are tons of great choices of Android high-end devices available from Google itself, from LG, Xiaomi, Huawei, htc, even from OnePlus, you name it. Good to have onemore choice with Essential now.

What we need is alternative to Android and iOS, not more shitty Android phones.

There is a reason why iOS feels buttery smooth compared to any phone running Android.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by organsnyder »

DiThi wrote: post #66
chinathrow wrote: post #56

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It's also not really our personal property when we can't use and repair it at will.

That's why I'm considering the Fairphone 2 as my next phone.

Those phones look really intriguing to me. I feel no need to keep up with the latest flagships—I just want a phone that is good enough, as long as the camera is decent.

If Fairphone produces a phone with USB-C charging and sells it in the United States, I'm sold.

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