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That's funny because I feel that exiting vim is easy. On the other hand, exiting from nano is a nightmare and makes no sense to me - To make matters worse, it's difficult to find info online because it's hard to explain nano's confusing interface with keywords. I hate how git made nano the default editor on Ubuntu. Every time I install git, I have to remember to change the configs to use vim as the default.
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No, it really is that easy. If you try to -c, the program even tells you to use :q It's just become a meme at this point.
> If you try to -c, the program even tells you to use :q And then you do and it helpfully adds ":q" to the buffer. You're still in vim.
I don't blame people for being confused though.. I remember getting stuck in vim all the time back in the day because of a default $EDITOR value.
ZQ - Quit without saving
ZZ - Quit with saving
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Cute, but no. When you enter insert mode, the "welcome screen" disappears. So if you can see the instruction telling you to type ':quit', then typing :quit will work.
FTA, https://zgab33vy595fw5zq-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/... It happens because people don't what they are doing. You assume that they hit ctrl+c, then immediately type :quit, but if they did, then they wouldn't be Googling it. They did something between trying to exit and quit that got them into a different mode.
What I'm saying is the screen that says
VIM - Vi IMproved
version 8.0.567
by Bram Moolenaar et al.
Vim is open source and freely distributable
Sponsor Vim development!
type :help sponsor for information
type :q to exit
type :help or for on-line help
type :help macvim for MacVim help
That's well and all for vim but I've been trapped in ed for almost two decades!
> It looks like developers in Ukraine, Turkey and Indonesia are getting stuck in Vim quite a bit: it makes up a larger portion of their Vim questions than in any other country. In contrast, in China, Korea and Japan the fraction going to this question is a tenth smaller. From my experience, people at least from Korea are very likely to develop on windows, even when targeting linux or even embedded linux. You can tell…
(Attribution is questionable, but as a geezer I feel the need to make sure the younger generations at least are familiar with this:) ed is the standard text editor Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed: golem> ed ? help ? ? ? quit ? exit ? bye ? hello? ? eat flaming death ? ^C ? ^C ? ^D ? --- Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is generous enough to flag errors, yet pruden…
I find that with a specific and known edit, it's far easier to do using sed and awk. In particular awk Has better power-to-weight ratio at traditional text processing. I think typical awk scripts could very well be shorter than the equivalent python scripts that do the same thing.
I barely use any Vim, but I'm more confused about there being some hidden complexity in exiting Vim that I'm not aware of. Isn't it just... [Esc] :wq ...or... [Esc] :q! ...depending if you want to save the current document or not?
I think mostly it's people not being familiar with escape key. If you think about it, pretty rare you use Escape in anything other than a game..