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Re: Laptop Ban a Reaction to X-Ray Equipment Stolen by ISIS

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Post by astrodust » Wed, May 24, 2017, 12:43 AM UTC

knodi123 wrote: post #101

astrodust wrote: post #88

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Ceramic, glass and plastic knives can be extremely dangerous and yet they probably don't show up on these machines at all. The utility of these machines is questionable to say the least. Bruce Schneier observed, like you did, that the heavily secured cockpit door is one of the only real improvements made to airplane security in the last few decades.

> and yet they probably don't show up on these machines at all Uh, yeah, they do. Have read anything about backscatter xray machines? The real way to defeat these machines is to hide things in folds of your flesh. It can see through clothes, but not too much skin. In staged demonstrations, fat people have gotten a metal pistol through, no problem.

I've read a fair bit about these machines and seen various demonstrations back when they were still being deployed.

Quick examples: https://www.wired.com/2014/08/study-shows-how-easily-weapons...

A gun(!) is basically invisible in the scan. Is teflon tape enough to defeat these stupid machines?

Re: Laptop Ban a Reaction to X-Ray Equipment Stolen by ISIS

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Post by RandVal30141 » Wed, May 24, 2017, 1:49 AM UTC

vkou wrote: post #120

RandVal30141 wrote: post #99

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"And yet, the press has done an about-face on Al Qaeda's, referring to its Syrian branch as 'Al-Nusra, a moderate rebel group." Substantiate your claim. "CIA getting into bed with Islamist terrorists" This is tiresome, just because US govt allies with Muslims that Russia calls terrorists doesn't make them so. In fact, last time I checked Russia works on the ground with Hezbollah, a designated terrorist group. This ar…

"The other areas listed are largely dominated by moderate rebel factions or Islamist groups, such as Ahrar al-Sham and the al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front." [1] Right. They aren't bad dudes like ISIS, they are just, ah, al-Qaeda's Syrian arm. They are totally on the level. > This is tiresome, just because US govt allies with Muslims that Russia calls terrorists doesn't make them so. That's true. Just because Russia s…

"(And then issue diplomatic protests when Russia bombs them.)"

US has literally never complained when Russia has bombed Nusra. People complain when Russia bombs people then calls them ISIS/AQ. Inanimate grain silos? IS oil facilities according to RU MoD. Hospitals? Nusra strongholds according to RU MoD.

This is what people complain about. If you want to say otherwise please substantiate your claim.

Re: Laptop Ban a Reaction to X-Ray Equipment Stolen by ISIS

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Post by jetti » Wed, May 24, 2017, 3:24 AM UTC

spc476 wrote: post #118

jetti wrote: post #114

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Was food included or did you have to pay?

Had to pay, but there was an actual menu to order from, unlike an airplane with one (or no) meals.

Ah ok. Were the prices reasonable or overpriced as it is a captive market?

Re: Laptop Ban a Reaction to X-Ray Equipment Stolen by ISIS

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Post by spc476 » Wed, May 24, 2017, 6:16 AM UTC

jetti wrote: post #123

spc476 wrote: post #118

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Had to pay, but there was an actual menu to order from, unlike an airplane with one (or no) meals.

Ah ok. Were the prices reasonable or overpriced as it is a captive market?

A bit high, as it is a captive audience.