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System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by striking »

speeder wrote: post #113
ufo wrote: post #104

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What did you regret about the 380x? I ask because I have been thinking about having my next card be an amd one because I'm tired of having to deal with proprietary drivers with my current nvidia card...

I was using only nVidia my whole life, and got tired of some of their business-related bullshit. So I thought AMD was going to be better, because they try to be good and nice... Well, AMD hardware is NOT good as nVidia (example: 380x in particular is really fast, but EXTREMELY power hungry, so much power hungry that AMD had to greatly cripple it, sometimes it starts stuttering heavily in games before it gets hot, and…

> their Open Source driver for Linux is so much crap it was entirely rejected by the kernel team

No, amdgpu was not rejected by the kernel team. A particular implementation of the driver was rejected because it implemented an abstraction layer, and that would make it nearly impossible for kernel devs to maintain.

> drawing too much power from the mobo and damaging it

If you could point to an example of this happening, I'd appreciate it. My knowledge of the situation is that some models of the RX 480 can run slightly out of spec, pulling a little too much power from the motherboard. Any motherboard I've heard of could withstand that. And if you really care you can enable an option in the driver that causes it to run strictly in PCI spec.

I'm not an AMD shill, I just think you've misrepresented some of the issues at hand. AMD make mistakes, for sure. But not every mistake is as crippling as you've implied.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by whazor »

d0vs wrote: post #24
artellectual wrote: post #3

Don't be shy to look at what Apple is doing. They got it right! I would be happy to pay premium for an excellent build quality linux laptop.

Apple build overpriced low-end perf laptops with high build quality, I'd rather have performance at a way lower price.

I don't believe that I actually want improved performance. I just want a smooth laptop that is thin, has long during battery life, and is price competitive. Essentially a MacBook at a reasonable price.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by nommm-nommm »

pawadu wrote: post #60
Morgawr wrote: post #42

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I bought a System76 laptop 5 years ago, still use it today. It's not perfect and I had some issues in the past but it's still going strong. I did buy it with a UK keyboard layout and back then it was an option, I'm not sure if things have changed since then though.

wait, UK and US layouts are not the same?

My US keyboard doesn't have a £ or € key which I'd imagine a British one to need at least £.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by mijoharas »

baldfat wrote: post #115
mijoharas wrote: post #90

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Bluetooth can still be a PITA though...

It has gotten really good in the last 5 years. I only have been using OpenSUSE with Bluetooth though.

I still hit bugs with Arch and I know they can hit Ubuntu as well[0], for instance, If anyone can connect to an amazon echo as an audio device I'd like to know what version of bluez and/or pulseaudio they are using, as it stopped working after an update a while ago...

[EDIT] Though to be fair, I think they did call out bluetooth as one of the things Ubuntu was going to focus on in their next release IIRC.

[0] https://askubuntu.com/questions/871630/cant-send-audio-to-am...

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by nommm-nommm »

mafro wrote: post #49
d0vs wrote: post #24

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Apple build overpriced low-end perf laptops with high build quality, I'd rather have performance at a way lower price.

Downvoted: opinion presented as fact

http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/4/12373776/2012-macbook-pro-s...

http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-disgracefully-outdated-m...

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

ekianjo wrote: post #59
Lio wrote: post #56

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Thinkpads are great but if I buy a Thinkpad T-series laptop I'm forced to buy Windows with it. Also it's not supported by the manufacturer. Thinkpads have great support from the Linux community but Lenovo doesn't officially guarantee its use (I would be happy to hear if I'm wrong on that).

Dont they have a contract with RedHat to ensure compatibility?

Yes, in my experience, the only thing that doesn't work is the fingerprint reader:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Validity-Finge...

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by [deleted] »

H4CK3RM4N wrote: post #63
d0vs wrote: post #55

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Compare the cheapest Mac ($1000) to an $800 ASUS: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air https://www.amazon.com/i5-6300HQ-keyboard-Microsoft-signatur... The ASUS has: - a larger screen - a better CPU - a better GPU - as much memory - more storage

The MacBook Air is an outdated product. The closest real comparison is the MacBook Pro to the Surface Pro, in which case the MacBook is better at every price tier(expect for the touchscreen which is totally useful).

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Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by Hydraulix989 »

d0vs wrote: post #24
artellectual wrote: post #3

Don't be shy to look at what Apple is doing. They got it right! I would be happy to pay premium for an excellent build quality linux laptop.

Apple build overpriced low-end perf laptops with high build quality, I'd rather have performance at a way lower price.

The "build quality" means it looks nice, but it sure isn't durable. If you spill liquid on an Apple, it's a dead machine. If you drop an Apple, it's also dead. Thinkpads can survive a hell of a lot more abuse.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by theandrewbailey »

Majestic121 wrote: post #96
cmdrfred wrote: post #91

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In business not really, the majority of home users are on WiFi though.

On laptop, sure. But on desktop? I've never met anyone using something else than plain old RJ45

People do. One of my friends asked for a "USB to USB" cable last week. (you have how many phones but no USB cables?) Turns out that he wanted to connect the USB type A port on a WD My Cloud (NAS?) directly to his desktop, because connecting the drive via ethernet to the router and transferring over wifi from his basement desktop estimated that it would take 2 weeks.

Re: System76 is moving product design and manufacturing in house

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Post by kuschku »

Lio wrote: post #56
s_kilk wrote: post #23

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> A well designed linux laptop, with no driver issues, good build quality, that doesn't sacrifice performance for thinness? That's what I'm missing. It exists, it's the Thinkpad T-series. I don't get all this hand-wringing over the need for hypothetical great Linux machines when we have Thinkpads available right now.

Thinkpads are great but if I buy a Thinkpad T-series laptop I'm forced to buy Windows with it. Also it's not supported by the manufacturer. Thinkpads have great support from the Linux community but Lenovo doesn't officially guarantee its use (I would be happy to hear if I'm wrong on that).

You can buy Thinkpads also preloaded with free DOS. (Usually a lot cheaper)
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