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Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Re: Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Post by jacquesm »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #119
jacquesm wrote: post #53

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HN could be done without anything other than what the OP suggested. It would work a little bit different (there would be a few more refreshes, for instance, on voting) but for the most part you would hardly know the difference.

Yeah, I mean it could be but wasn't.

It actually was. The current version no longer does this but the first one did. Which is kind of neat: under the hood HN has been almost completely revamped but it still looks almost to the pixel the same as the first version.

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Post by jessaustin »

nojvek wrote: post #100
Cyph0n wrote: post #87

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That's a nice way to put it :P

How do they choose the winners? Also I guess how CEO's get credit for the doing of a company, TBL gets credit for the Internet?

It seems more appropriate to credit TBL for "The Web" than for "The Internet"...

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Post by TheShadowRunner »

Kenji wrote: post #4
jacquesm wrote: post #3

Key quote (for me) from the interview: "A social network is disempowering because you put a lot of energy into it, all your personal data out there, and tell it who your friends are. You can only use that information inside the silo of that particular social network." source: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/604052/webs-inventor-tim-...

Yeah. I wish we had something more decentralised, like e-mail, but for social networks. Like, a standardized social network protocol that most people use (popularity is important here). There is nothing special about what social networks like Facebook do, the biggest challenge is probably serving so many requests and storing lots of data with high availability.

Have you heard about Mastodon?

https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon

It's like a decentralized version of Twitter, with federalization. Might need to find a instance that's not busy with signups though.

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Post by alainv »

seejay wrote: post #82
Jaruzel wrote: post #77

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Your comment, although well-meaning, also didn't add anything to the conversation. People tend to vote those down.

Thank you very much! in that case I'd be ok with the down votes. But the first reply I got here from someone I assume who is in charge of HN was "OP is a man" so I can't help but wonder what's really going on in the minds of these down voters.

1) Your comment added nothing, but then this wasn't a high-value thread anyway.

2) Any pronoun in that case would be superfluous. "Holy crap! Congratulations!" would be far more intuitive to native english speakers. Choosing to add a gendered pronoun without knowing the correct gender is just... odd. That's exactly the type of situation most would avoid where possible: you omit gendered pronouns unless you know.

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Post by hodgesrm »

madiathomas wrote: post #72
Cyph0n wrote: post #49

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Diffie and Hellman won it only last year, 40 years after their seminal paper was published! It is indeed a very tough award to get.

Odds of becoming a US dollar billionaire are higher than odds of winning it in your lifetime.

In this case scarcity correlates to value. Given a choice I think I would take the Turing Award. :)

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Post by jacquesm »

sametmax wrote: post #90
jacquesm wrote: post #81

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Idealism is not going to get you very far in the marketplace. Accepting reality as it is and your place and power within that reality is key to both not feeling continuously frustrated and actually achieving some measurable change. You are essentially trying to ignore the fact that the Berne convention exists and that it (and not ideals) govern the position of rights holders. TBL is a pragmatist, first and foremost,…

While I agree with your conclusions, I nevertheless don't think we should endorse a bad status quo. When Firefox came around (as Phoenix), it didn't endorse ActiveX, making a lot of sites unusable. It chose fair standards. What would have happened if they decided that they were too small and that Microsoft was so big that ActiveX would be inevitable anyway ? Note that eventually the DRM won't affect me. I'm tech saav…

Have a read:

https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/03/drm-in-html5-is-a-v...

See if that changes your mind.

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Post by Symbiote »

Nadya wrote: post #118
nindalf wrote: post #104

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If Kazuo Ishiguro is knighted, should he be addressed as Sir Kazuo or Sir Ishiguro? The point being that people of Japanese descent might place their first names after their last names.

Sir Kazuo. With some exceptions - Japanese people "normalize" their names to English name order of Given Name, Family Name when writing or speaking in English. Some choose not to, usually out of national pride, but it is most common to normalize the name to the target language. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_name#Japanese_names_i...

An example: Sir Ong-Siang.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_Ong_Siang

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wins Turing Award

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Post by scott_karana »

castis wrote: post #47
protist wrote: post #30

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Nothing about it was original or invented.

Why not contribute to the conversation and tell us why what we're reading is incorrect?

He did: Gopher also does hyperlinking, and was a contemporary (1991 public releases)

The still-used command line browser Lynx was first made for Gopher in fact, before being adapted for HTTP, which it still does.

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