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Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

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Usually a new version of VS comes with a new version of the .net framework. It doesn't seem to be the case here. I can't see the tuples announced for VB for instance. I am getting an error with Dim p As (x As Integer, y As Integer) saying that I am missing a reference to 'System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TupleElementNamesAttribute' (but if tuples are part of the language why do I need an external reference? and this a…

I can't comment for VB or the error you're getting, but System.ValueTuple is a nu-get package that facilitates the new tuples in C#; so maybe try including that in your project?

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#122

Where did the ISO:s go? Please give us something with a known hash. I attempted to create the offline installer [1] but the vs_community.exe just silently quit after some mintues, having downloaded only some certificates. The custom download idea is easily planted with malware and all those bad things. Also, please consider upgrading from SHA-1. > We understand that a lot of customers want an offline installer for Vi…

A few quick thoughts on the topic of ISOs, to give you all a little extra context. 1. Visual Studio 2017 is a huge product, because we support so many types of development: from Android to UWP to C++ to Unity to Linux. If we were to still offer a 'full' install, it would come in at over 50GB. That's one huge ISO image! 2. We surveyed hundreds of people during the previews and RCs, and people told us that they had his…

No one is asking for a 50GB ISO. ISO is another way of saying "a single file". If you could provide a single ZIP file with SHA or MD5 hash we are happy too. Look at Xcode - the main bundle is around 3GB and all the SDKs, simulators, and documents are available as in-app downloads. Or you can look at Android Studio, or Eclipse. The base software package is relative small and there are options to download plugins/components.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#123

Where did the ISO:s go? Please give us something with a known hash. I attempted to create the offline installer [1] but the vs_community.exe just silently quit after some mintues, having downloaded only some certificates. The custom download idea is easily planted with malware and all those bad things. Also, please consider upgrading from SHA-1. > We understand that a lot of customers want an offline installer for Vi…

A few quick thoughts on the topic of ISOs, to give you all a little extra context. 1. Visual Studio 2017 is a huge product, because we support so many types of development: from Android to UWP to C++ to Unity to Linux. If we were to still offer a 'full' install, it would come in at over 50GB. That's one huge ISO image! 2. We surveyed hundreds of people during the previews and RCs, and people told us that they had his…

"The componentization work we've done means that the smallest install is one-tenth the size of Visual Studio 2015, making it far more likely to succeed" - Is VS going to be a UWP in the future? An installer is so 1999

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#125

I've used Visual Studio for many years. Visual Studio 5.0 was very responsive. Visual Studio 2015 is not as responsive. Nowadays it seemes a bit bloated, even after disabling unused plugins and features. Switched to CLion and Rider, which are not known for their speed, but feel more responsible than VS to me. That and a more affordable price and cross-platform support.

I am sorry we lost you and we're very aware of the need to improve IDE performance and have invested a lot into this release towards that goal. Just one example to read is this blog series when the product was still codenamed VS "15". https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudio/2016/10/14/imp... (VS "15" is Visual Studio 2017) We also have Visual Studio Code for those who want a lighter code editor, see: http://cod…

@LyalinDotCom, if you want a real world example of something causing poor performance, then clone my project [1]. There are a couple of 3mb T4 code-gen'd files [2][3] that bring VS to its knees. I suspect it's actually the Roslyn compiler, but can't be certain. I know that if I wipe the code in those files then the performance is restored.

[1] https://github.com/louthy/language-ext/

[2] https://github.com/louthy/language-ext/blob/master/LanguageE...

[3] https://github.com/louthy/language-ext/blob/master/LanguageE...

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#127
post #121
post #108

Usually a new version of VS comes with a new version of the .net framework. It doesn't seem to be the case here. I can't see the tuples announced for VB for instance. I am getting an error with Dim p As (x As Integer, y As Integer) saying that I am missing a reference to 'System.Runtime.CompilerServices.TupleElementNamesAttribute' (but if tuples are part of the language why do I need an external reference? and this a…

I can't comment for VB or the error you're getting, but System.ValueTuple is a nu-get package that facilitates the new tuples in C#; so maybe try including that in your project?

But how can it be called a new language feature if it's not supported unless I add some external references (and the what's new page doesn't make any reference to a nuget package).

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#128

VS 2017 is rounding up to be the best 2017 yet released. It's much faster and packed with tons of useful new features. Pretty happy with using it!

Now only if u would fix the damn XAML editor crashes!

Have you checked out Ammy[1]? It's been great to me so far. It does hot code reloading during runtime, so no need for a crummy designer that crashes 30 times every day (the XAML designer isn't 100% WYSIWYG anyway).

Plus, IMO, the language is a lot more readable and enjoyable to author in than overly verbose XAML.

[1]: http://www.ammyui.com/

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#129
post #50

Also folks should check out or comprehensive release notes: https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/news/releasenotes/vs2017-...

Sadly no mention of any improvements to their C compiler :( The C99 support is still incomplete and it looks like MS has given up on C.

I'm using 2015 to develop a library for Linux. Their Linux support works great - pulls up gcc, debugs, etc. But it doesn't understand _Atomic in the IDE and so I get a lot of errors in Intellisense and stuff. It's sort of fair since I'm not sure I fully understand C11 atomics, but I like my IDE to be smarter.

Re: Visual Studio 2017 Launch [video]

#130
post #85

What happen to Python support? It was supported in the release candidate.

Please read this: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/pythonengineering/2017/02/2... And this: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/pythonengineering/2017/03/0...

Perfect, thank you.
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